Jores Okore

[PaulWinch again]

Actually I think its just possible that he is a bad trainer who has left Lambert/Keane deeply unimpressed by his attitude. And doesnt like being bellowed at by Keane/Lambert. And sulks.

Based on what?

[Villa in Denmark]

Is there any basis for this assertion, or is it just a can't think of any other explanation? I remember all sorts of similar accusations about Helenius.

Whenever I've seen Okore play, or heard him in an interview, he's appeared as nothing other than someone with a really positive attitude who literally plays with a smile on his face.

How about he's coming back from a serious injury, and Lambert hasn't wanted to risk just throwing him in?

He started with Vlarr and Senderos as his most experienced pairing. When Vlarr got injured he went with switching Senderos to the right side and bringing in Baker on the left with Clark as the sub to give a more PL experienced pairing through the "difficult" games.

Vlarr comes back and Baker hasn't really done anything to deserve being dropped.

The only two question marks are if he shouldn't have been in the team v Orient, and if he would have been worth a place on.the bench instead of Clark yesterday.

[supertom]

I think it's lack of experience and nothing more. He had a long layoff and we've just had a run of games that weren't the best to throw him in to.
I hope he comes good. That said if he ends up being shipped off on loan and never plays for us again, I wouldn't be remotely surprised. It worries me, inexperienced at this level or not, that he can't get in ahead of Clark at the moment. Clark was woeful yesterday.

[N'ZMAV]

Maybe he's still not 100% fit?

[Goldie.7]

Is there any basis for this assertion, or is it just a can't think of any other explanation? I remember all sorts of similar accusations about Helenius.

Whenever I've seen Okore play, or heard him in an interview, he's appeared as nothing other than someone with a really positive attitude who literally plays with a smile on his face.

How about he's coming back from a serious injury, and Lambert hasn't wanted to risk just throwing him in?

He started with Vlarr and Senderos as his most experienced pairing. When Vlarr got injured he went with switching Senderos to the right side and bringing in Baker on the left with Clark as the sub to give a more PL experienced pairing through the "difficult" games.

Vlarr comes back and Baker hasn't really done anything to deserve being dropped.

The only two question marks are if he shouldn't have been in the team v Orient, and if he would have been worth a place on.the bench instead of Clark yesterday.

Who the hell is Vlarr?

[UK Redsox]

An Ice Warrior?

[Villa in Denmark]

Sorry for the typo - smartphone keyboard and big fingers not always a good combination.

Now care to add to the debate or just sniping from the sidelines?

[Ron Manager]

Actually I think its just possible that he is a bad trainer who has left Lambert/Keane deeply unimpressed by his attitude. And doesnt like being bellowed at by Keane/Lambert. And sulks.

Based on what?

No hard evidence. But I find it very strange that a player who is by all reports  fit and indeed represented his country earlier last week does
not even make the bench for yesterdays game. Lambert should offer a reason for his non appearance. Perhaps there is a very good reason
that the manager would like to inform the supporters of.

[Villa in Denmark]

And how many other teams give detailed briefings into the whys and hows of team selections or non-selections?

[pauliewalnuts]

Actually I think its just possible that he is a bad trainer who has left Lambert/Keane deeply unimpressed by his attitude. And doesnt like being bellowed at by Keane/Lambert. And sulks.

Based on what?

No hard evidence. But I find it very strange that a player who is by all reports  fit and indeed represented his country earlier last week does
not even make the bench for yesterdays game. Lambert should offer a reason for his non appearance. Perhaps there is a very good reason
that the manager would like to inform the supporters of.

When you say no hard evidence, what you actually mean is "no evidence whatsoever", surely?

[Walmley_Villa]

Well if you get in Lambert's bad books it is game over, example number 1, Matt Lowton.

[Grande Pablo]

Well if you get in Lambert's bad books it is game over, example number 1, Matt Lowton.

Who made the bench yesterday.

[JUAN PABLO]

Well if you get in Lambert's bad books it is game over, example number 1, Matt Lowton.

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But then get a new contract I.e Hutton

[olaftab]

And how many other teams give detailed briefings into the whys and hows of team selections or non-selections?

That honset 'Arry character always provides good insight!

[Toronto Villa]

from the OS

Lambert also revealed he's playing a waiting game with Jores Okore.

Okore missed the majority of the previous campaign with a bad knee injury.

Lambert is being careful with Okore due to the severity of the problem he sustained - as well as the demands and rigours of the Barclays Premier League.

He added: Jores has played U21 football but I'm not quite sure he's too ready to go into this environment yet.

"That's why I'm a bit reluctant and he's got to get more game time under his belt for his knee.

"I know he's playing U21 games with Denmark but I think to throw him in at that level is too early."