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Offline PGW

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #615 on: September 27, 2014, 11:14:30 PM »
He was at the game today in the seats behind the bench.
Yes he was...and if he was suffering from some after effects of bug he wouldn't have been.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #616 on: September 27, 2014, 11:15:22 PM »
Well from the very little I've seen of him, he's better than Clark and Baker so I don't get it.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #617 on: September 27, 2014, 11:30:30 PM »
I think the Helenius thing demonstrates why we need to be careful drawing conclusions over why a player is or is not in the team.  I doubt its anywhere near as drastic as a bacterial infection, depression and a sleeping pill addiction, but the manager and coaching staff see a lot more of him than we do and there will be a good reason for his non-inclusion.

I'm sure he'll get his chance.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #618 on: September 28, 2014, 01:50:29 AM »
I know they've done pretty well up to know but I don't wouldn't mind Senderos and Baker being sidelined for Vlaar and Okore when both are fit.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #619 on: September 28, 2014, 08:50:09 AM »
Well its a strange one. Just possible Okore hasnt impressed Keane in training. Just possible he doesnt like the training methods. But you would have expected to see him on the bench yesterday as cover for the two centre backs I would have thought.

Who knows? Lambert and Keane I should hope.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #620 on: September 28, 2014, 11:00:28 AM »
I think we'll ease him in over the easier games. He may start off as a covering right back if Hutton needs a rest, or if we switch to a three at the back it takes a bit of pressure off him.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #621 on: September 28, 2014, 11:48:57 AM »
The ideal would be to bring him in when Vlaar is fit, let him play alongside a reliable player who can show him the ropes and talk him through. He's not only returning from injury but also pretty much a newcomer to the league. As supertom says that will be much easier against a side where you are not going to be spending 70% defending.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #622 on: September 28, 2014, 12:30:20 PM »
The ideal would've been beating Orient and starting him in the next round of that competition but alas.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #623 on: September 28, 2014, 01:02:21 PM »
that will be much easier against a side where you are not going to be spending 70% defending.

That's going to rule out the majority of the season for him. ;)

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #624 on: September 28, 2014, 07:57:56 PM »
that will be much easier against a side where you are not going to be spending 70% defending.


That's going to rule out the majority of the season for him. ;)

I didn't want to, but I thought the same.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #625 on: September 28, 2014, 11:04:27 PM »
Just found this article on BT's website (equivalent of [spits] The Sun [/spits]) from a couple of weeks ago. (Published on the morning of the Liverpool game)

Okore wanted to be loaned out - Villa said no

Translation of article:

Jores Okore was surprised to be passed over for the cup game against Leyton Orient, but even though he's not even been named in the squad this season, and Aston Villa have refused to sell or loan him out, he wants to stay and fight.

Jores Okore was within 13 days of 1 year without game time in a competitive match, but on 3rd September Jess Thorup picked him in the U-21s victory over Russia which meant 90 minutes under his belt. A few days later it was the full team's important qualifier against Armenia, and you would thing that everything was moving in the right direction for the robust centre-back, who had his first season at Aston Villa ruined with a terrible knee injury.

But that's not quite how it is.  Even though Aston Villa paid 35M dkk for the 22 year-old Dane, the former FC Nordsjælland player hasn't been part of the squad in Aston Villa's first four matches this season.  Three Premier League games and one in the League Cup.

"It was a bit of a surprise that I wasn't selected for the cup game.  I'd hoped to be part of the squad and maybe get the chance to play a bit in that game.  I felt it was a chance for me, but I think that the manager has slightly different plans in mind. I'll have to take it as it comes.  It's also early in the season" says Okore who otherwise feels back on top of things again after his long injury period.

"I didn't get too much playing time in pre-season, because the first 11 needed to play together.  Paul Lambert was maybe not quite sure that my knee could tolerate a hard start to the season, as it's "fresh, new knee" and it takes time to get back from a big injury.  But I feel that I'm 100% ready myself.

It's more the manager's choice, that I'm not playing at the moment, than it's because of the injury.  I don't feel that I've overestimated what's required to get back in the team. Maybe  there's just a couple of other things that are necessary to be completely back to your old level, but that can only come with playing time" emphasises Okore.

He'd already declared himself match fit in April of last season, but nothing happened, and when the new season started, Okore approached his manager and told him that match time was the most important thing, regardless of whether that was at Aston Villa or somewhere else.

"I said to the manager, that I'm ready to do anything so that I can be considered for selection again as quickly as possible, but Paul Lambert wants me to stay at the club, and he thought I would soon be playing again, so I just have to trust in what he says.  When he won't even loan me out there must be a reason for that." explains Okore.

According to BT's information there were 7 clubs from the 2 top divisions in England that enquired about either loaning or buying Okore, but each time the answer was a crystal clear "No" from the Birmingham club.

In my own head I was open to all possibilities, that could have got me match time again.  I just want to play as much as possible, and that's one of the reasons I came to Aston Villa, because here I could see a better chance of playing instead of sitting on the bench or in the stands.

So it means a lot that he won't allow me to be loaned out, and that he must believe in me, but I just want to play as much as possible as soon as possible. Playing loads of games is what enjoy most.

It's too early to say that I'm getting impatient.  If I'd played the last three years straight, it would be a different situation, so I feel that I can give it a bit more time, before I start to feel impatient or dissatisfied.  That would be like giving up at the first obstacle, but I want to give it a chance so that I can play and show what I can do.

Right now it's OK, and I don't think I can go round and be frustrated.  Life is good and it's great to be back playing football again, but I'm fighting to be picked for games.  There's lots of fixtures in England, so hopefully I'll get plenty of games to show people why Aston Villa bought me


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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #627 on: September 29, 2014, 08:34:47 AM »
Well I'd like to see him involved in some first team games, he's clearly getting frustrated.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #628 on: September 29, 2014, 08:42:45 AM »
Clearly Jores is not at all happy. He feels he could play but Lambert is cautious that he doesnt break down.In this case Lambert may be right.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #629 on: September 29, 2014, 10:50:40 AM »
I think Lambert is absolutely right not to rush him back after such a serious injury. It would be an unmitigated disaster if he broke down again. Ditto Christian, ditto Libor.

 


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