Jores Okore

[saunders_heroes]

I didnt say i was happy with our defence , i argued the point that we have looked better with okore in defence and had improved and made progress .

And I'm arguing that Clark and Baker are not PL class and shouldn't be anywhere near our first team. And Vlaar is very lucky to be still at our club.

Players aren't born 'Premiership players'. They can develop into them if you let them.

And Baker and Vlaar are better than you're giving them credit for, in my opinion.

It's all about opinions of course but 26 games without a clean sheet tells us everything you need to know about our centre backs in reality.

[Legion]

It's like people who are complaining that he went out and signed two strikers. If he'd just brought Helanius in and Benteke picks up a lengthy injury, then it would be 'he should have brought in someone else with more experience because Helanius is unproven'.

But we have Agbonlahor, Weimann and Helainius already at the club, yet he thought it a good idea to sign yet another striker for £7m. I'd say the priority would have been a centre back or midfielder.

I agree with that.

[Clampy]

It's like people who are complaining that he went out and signed two strikers. If he'd just brought Helanius in and Benteke picks up a lengthy injury, then it would be 'he should have brought in someone else with more experience because Helanius is unproven'.

But we have Agbonlahor, Weimann and Helainius already at the club, yet he thought it a good idea to sign yet another striker for £7m. I'd say the priority would have been a centre back or midfielder.

I think personally another wide midfielder would have been a good idea but he's been chasing this Kozak for a while so let's how he does.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

It would be quite difficult to overstate what a massive blow this news is. Torpedo amidships is the maritime metaphor which springs to mind.

Indeed. It wouldn't be so bad if we trusted Lambert to sort the defence out but I just can't see it happening. We're in for a very rough time until January and even then he may not be able to bring in the quality needed.

[taylorsworkrate]

This is probably, Benteke apart, the one player whose absence would hurt the most.

Unless Vlaar, Baker and Clark have miraculously turned into competent defenders then we're in a spot of bother until January at the least (although Lambert is probably looking all over Europe for another target man)

[Legion]

Vlaar IS a competent defender.

[LeeB]

I didnt say i was happy with our defence , i argued the point that we have looked better with okore in defence and had improved and made progress .

And I'm arguing that Clark and Baker are not PL class and shouldn't be anywhere near our first team. And Vlaar is very lucky to be still at our club.

Players aren't born 'Premiership players'. They can develop into them if you let them.

And Baker and Vlaar are better than you're giving them credit for, in my opinion.

It's all about opinions of course but 26 games without a clean sheet tells us everything you need to know about our centre backs in reality.

It's not just them though, the team had to defend better as a whole. I thought they were once Sylla got going, so I'm a bit baffled as to why he hasn't played yet.

[saunders_heroes]

Vlaar IS a competent defender.

I think Vlaar IS very lucky to be still at the club considering how poor he was last season.

[Louzie0]

Sickening news.
Didn't have him over the end of last season though, or for all the games so far. Clark is better IMO than he gets credit for.
Perhaps Sylla and young Gardner can return to beef up midfield, as well.

[Meanwood Villa]

Vlaar IS a competent defender.

I think Vlaar IS very lucky to be still at the club considering how poor he was last season.

Come on he might not have been brilliant but "lucky to be still at the club"? It makes it sound like he's got some disciplinary issues which he hasn't. Anyway we sure as hell need him now.

[Ads]

Lee had it right the first time he said it. Its not just the midfield that needs Sylla, its the back four. If you have somebody who is physically dominating and quick screening you, winning the ball 15 to 20 yards higher up the pitch it gives you a better chance. It also gives Delph more licence to bomb on.

Like Lee, I think we need him in and we will see him back at Carrow Road.

[paul_e]

Vlaar IS a competent defender.

I think Vlaar IS very lucky to be still at the club considering how poor he was last season.

Give it a rest, 1 season in a new league where he did ok in the main (he put in 3-4 really poor performances but was competent the rest of the time), there are worse defenders than him who've been given a hell of a lot more time to settle.

I'm not really sure what you're problem is, every time things aren't going well your post rates increases massively whilst you glorify in calling as many of the squad as you can completely shit.

[Ron Manager]

Perhaps Bowery could be converted to a centre half?  Clutching at straws I know but it worked with Allan Evans and Dick Edwards and Dion Dublin.

[saunders_heroes]

Vlaar IS a competent defender.

I think Vlaar IS very lucky to be still at the club considering how poor he was last season.

Come on he might not have been brilliant but "lucky to be still at the club"? It makes it sound like he's got some disciplinary issues which he hasn't. Anyway we sure as hell need him now.

Disciplinary issues? I've never suggested anything of the sort. Yes we need him now, I agree with you on that. He's still damn lucky to be still at our club though. He's been an incredible disappointment since he signed. Concrete Ron, my arse.

[saunders_heroes]

Vlaar IS a competent defender.

I think Vlaar IS very lucky to be still at the club considering how poor he was last season.

Give it a rest, 1 season in a new league where he did ok in the main (he put in 3-4 really poor performances but was competent the rest of the time), there are worse defenders than him who've been given a hell of a lot more time to settle.

I'm not really sure what you're problem is, every time things aren't going well your post rates increases massively whilst you glorify in calling as many of the squad as you can completely shit.

Let's not make things personal, eh? When I post has nothing to do with anything and its no business of yours either. I've been posting on here since 2000 through good and bad times. I don't need to justify anything to you.