Aston Villa vs Chelsea Post-Match Thread

[Somniloquism]

Savage is now saying it was over the line as it disappeared on the next frame even though the next frame it could easily have been cleared and been behind Ba.

[jcsutv]

It was over the line though x

[OCD]

Savage is now saying it was over the line as it disappeared on the next frame even though the next frame it could easily have been cleared and been behind Ba.

Savage should realise that Linesmen don't see in frames. What does he expect? You can't be definitive with replays so how's the human eye supposed to get it right? Does he expect forwards to be just given the benefit of doubt. This is why we need goal-line technology. Until then the linesmen was absolutely right not to give it if he couldn't be sure - and he couldn't.

[Somniloquism]

Savage said in that frame it wasn't fully over, then said it disappeared next frame so should have been, even though it could easily have disappeared behind Ba as easily as behind Westwood. Yes, technology might have called that over, but until it is in place, you have to rely on the physical eye and as it is neither official could have been sure it was.

[olaftab]

It was over the line though x

No it was cleared....so there!

[jcsutv]

It was definitely cleared. It was over though. X

[mr woo]

Savage is now saying it was over the line as it disappeared on the next frame even though the next frame it could easily have been cleared and been behind Ba.

Yeah, I was hoping big Dion would stand up and reintroduce him to March 2003.


As for the game, I thought we were cruising till Benteke was sent off.  He didn't deserve to be - for that offence anyway - but the precedent had already been set by the Ramires red card. Otherwise we played some nice stuff, and Sylla is proving to be the snappy terrier we needed months ago. If he adds a bit of muscle in the summer he'll be an even stronger force I feel.

Going back to an earlier argument regarding non-attendance of games and validity of opinions I can only say there is no right or wrong answer.
 I have to confess I've left Villa Park on occasions with absolute conviction on certain incidents only  to be proved wrong when watching MOTD later that evening. If anything it proves what a difficult job officials have, as these decisions are so often simply based on your viewpoint at the time.

[jcsutv]

One would hope so.

[mr woo]

Do I detect a nose?

[PeterWithesShin]

To be honest I thought the only thing the ref got wrong was not to send off Benteke for the elbow.

WHAT!!!!!
Were you watching a different game to the rest of us? Or are you a closet Chelsea fan?

Terry should have gone 1st half for the foul on Sylla when through on goal.
I haven't time to list all the others

Less of that please. From the site rules.

Please do not accuse people of being, for example, "a bluenose" or "a manyoo fan" because you don't like or agree with what they are saying.

He didn't accuse he asked a question but never mind it's ok for you to call a player a c*** three times in one post, my god you moderators really do beggar belief at times talk about double standards.

Yes he did. And he apologised and all was over and done with very quickly and very amicably. And then for some reason 5 hours later you decide to dredge it up again. I wonder why?

And yes it is. John Terry is a ******. I'll say it a hundred times in one post if you like?

[claretandbeer]

So MOTD decided to show nothing of the rest of our play. What about Bennett's deflected close effort for one?

Yes.MOtD spends more time discussing the match or showing  5 or 6 reruns of goals,the second half showing was a travesty and the first half not much better,especially in ignoring Delph's performance and his run and shot in the first half. It's not Match of the day but goals or defensive mistakes of the day.The programme needs a total overhaul.

[not3bad]

Awful coverage from MOTD. At least they gave Stan equal coverage with fat fwank.

[PeterWithesShin]

I missed MOTD was going to ask if they gave much coverage to Stan.

[eamonn]

Savage is now saying it was over the line as it disappeared on the next frame even though the next frame it could easily have been cleared and been behind Ba.

He was right about Baker handling for a penalty. Hadn't heard mention of that.

[paul_e]

Can't be bothered to go back and quote it, but the comment about seeing the game better when you're there is largely bollocks I'm afraid.  How often are you genuinely watching the other end of the pitch rather than the area where the ball is?  You might see a run a little clearer, but if it's important to the game here are 3-4 replays anyway so making an opinion of events is just as easy for someone watching on TV inmost cases.  Where you do miss something is in the defensive shape, but unless it's bad enough to lead to goals being conceded that's largely irrelevant, other than as something to watch out for.

I've watched a lot of football live and a lot on TV and I've genuinely never felt that I was better placed to offer analysis of the game because I'd been in the ground.  To me comments like that are just "I'm a better fan than you" crap when you can't think of a better argument to use.

People will disagree on aspects of the game, today for example, I thought Benteke's 2nd yellow was a terrible decision made on the basis of numbers on the pitch rather than the seriousness of the offence, others will disagree with me, which is fine.  What's not fine is to think that my opinion on it is worth less because I watched on TV 2000 miles away.