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Author Topic: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours  (Read 1668002 times)

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6165 on: July 11, 2013, 12:32:55 AM »
I would take about 17 and Sigurdsson in fairness. He is a quality, quality player and scores goals from midfield.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6166 on: July 11, 2013, 12:39:39 AM »
also I'd say Finnbogason is my #1 choice to replace Benteke. He looks quality.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6167 on: July 11, 2013, 01:18:58 AM »
True, but then again, last season, we also nearly got relegated.

I don't have any problem with Helenius playing week in, week out, if he's scoring goals.

The point is, whoever we play there, they're going to have to score a lot of goals, because even with Weimann established and Gabby playing well, I still don't think there are enough goals in that side.

That's a big expectation on Helenius, unfair expectation in my opinion.

I also take your point re Lukaku and Shane Long, but it's not as if they're the only options if we're looking for a decent replacement for Benteke. Going out and replacing a good striker with another good one is not easy to do, but we at least need to try. There's no rule that we can't be sensible and also look for more proven players, they're not mutually exclusive.

Benteke got 19 goals last season and whereas I agree that it would be difficult to find another striker capable of such a return in  our price range, we might ease that problem by getting a 10 goal a season attacking midfielder.  Add that kind of player with a 10-15 goal a season striker and we will make up for the goals Benteke scored.   

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6168 on: July 11, 2013, 01:51:44 AM »
True, but then again, last season, we also nearly got relegated.

I don't have any problem with Helenius playing week in, week out, if he's scoring goals.

The point is, whoever we play there, they're going to have to score a lot of goals, because even with Weimann established and Gabby playing well, I still don't think there are enough goals in that side.

That's a big expectation on Helenius, unfair expectation in my opinion.

I also take your point re Lukaku and Shane Long, but it's not as if they're the only options if we're looking for a decent replacement for Benteke. Going out and replacing a good striker with another good one is not easy to do, but we at least need to try. There's no rule that we can't be sensible and also look for more proven players, they're not mutually exclusive.

Benteke got 19 goals last season and whereas I agree that it would be difficult to find another striker capable of such a return in  our price range, we might ease that problem by getting a 10 goal a season attacking midfielder.  Add that kind of player with a 10-15 goal a season striker and we will make up for the goals Benteke scored.   


If we'd had a tighter defence last season we wouldn't have needed our strikers to score so many goals and even with fewer goals we'd almost certainly have finished with a good deal more points than we did.

It may not be so sexy, but I think it's just as important that Lambert has at least partly gone some way to rectifying this already.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6169 on: July 11, 2013, 02:36:29 AM »
I would take about 17 and Sigurdsson in fairness. He is a quality, quality player and scores goals from midfield.

Yeah lots, 3 last season wasn't it!

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6170 on: July 11, 2013, 02:49:10 AM »
also I'd say Finnbogason is my #1 choice to replace Benteke. He looks quality.

Good shout sell Judas and get him in for £6m, sorted! Then buy Guidetti for £5/6m and a attacking midfielder £9m and we'll still have change left. Happy days

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6171 on: July 11, 2013, 08:06:54 AM »
True, but then again, last season, we also nearly got relegated.

I don't have any problem with Helenius playing week in, week out, if he's scoring goals.

The point is, whoever we play there, they're going to have to score a lot of goals, because even with Weimann established and Gabby playing well, I still don't think there are enough goals in that side.

That's a big expectation on Helenius, unfair expectation in my opinion.

I also take your point re Lukaku and Shane Long, but it's not as if they're the only options if we're looking for a decent replacement for Benteke. Going out and replacing a good striker with another good one is not easy to do, but we at least need to try. There's no rule that we can't be sensible and also look for more proven players, they're not mutually exclusive.

Benteke got 19 goals last season and whereas I agree that it would be difficult to find another striker capable of such a return in  our price range, we might ease that problem by getting a 10 goal a season attacking midfielder.  Add that kind of player with a 10-15 goal a season striker and we will make up for the goals Benteke scored.   


Not to mention all his assists.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6172 on: July 11, 2013, 08:09:48 AM »
I would take about 17 and Sigurdsson in fairness. He is a quality, quality player and scores goals from midfield.

I suppose it depends on how much Villa value Beneteke and how much they think Sigurdsson is worth. That deal you suggested would make him worth £8m which sounds a lot. Not a bad player though.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6173 on: July 11, 2013, 08:11:51 AM »
I would take about 17 and Sigurdsson in fairness. He is a quality, quality player and scores goals from midfield.

I suppose it depends on how much Villa value Beneteke and how much they think Sigurdsson is worth. That deal you suggested would make him worth £8m which sounds a lot. Not a bad player though.

Morning clamps, i must admit i wouldn't really fancy a part ex with spurs -  much prefer the full cash .

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6174 on: July 11, 2013, 08:33:04 AM »
If for arguments sake we get £30 million for him, then I don’t see us re-investing that in one player.

I would imagine we’re looking at spending no more than half of that, say on a number 10 and a replacement for Benteke.

The rest will be used to off-set the previous 6 signings or potentially give Lambert an extra few million for January.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6175 on: July 11, 2013, 08:38:22 AM »
I don't think Sigurdsson would fit into our wage structure at this point. He moved to Spurs for money in part. I think he's quite a good player. He didn't score as many at Spurs because he wasn't given as much attacking freedom as previous clubs.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6176 on: July 11, 2013, 08:39:18 AM »
If for arguments sake we get £30 million for him, then I don’t see us re-investing that in one player.

I would imagine we’re looking at spending no more than half of that, say on a number 10 and a replacement for Benteke.

The rest will be used to off-set the previous 6 signings or potentially give Lambert an extra few million for January.


I'd hope there would be at least £16m of the fee given to lambert if not more.
A striker and attacking midfielder would probably be the targets.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6177 on: July 11, 2013, 08:45:03 AM »
If for arguments sake we get £30 million for him, then I don’t see us re-investing that in one player.

I would imagine we’re looking at spending no more than half of that, say on a number 10 and a replacement for Benteke.

The rest will be used to off-set the previous 6 signings or potentially give Lambert an extra few million for January.


I'd hope there would be at least £16m of the fee given to lambert if not more.
A striker and attacking midfielder would probably be the targets.
You'd hope we'd get a couple of Benteke-esque signings in. A striker and midfielder. I guess the beauty with Lambert too, is that if he's given a figure in terms of budget, he doesn't feel obligated to reach, or even slightly surpass that figure like certain ex-managers. If he sees a 5 million pound player he thinks is better than one at 10 mill he'll make the sensible choice.
If we get the Benteke cash soon, then perhaps we'll meet the valuation on that Japanese fella. He looks good.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6178 on: July 11, 2013, 08:48:03 AM »
I think the kind of player Lambert is after wouldn't command a fee of any more than £8 or £9 million to be honest.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #6179 on: July 11, 2013, 09:03:42 AM »
If we get the Benteke cash soon, then perhaps we'll meet the valuation on that Japanese fella. He looks good.

My hunch is that we could afford £10m (?) that it would cost to secure the Japanese fella anyway.  He plays in a different position so the two transfers do not need to be linked.  Such a signing may also see Benteke less inclined to leave too.

 


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