Ellis and Charidee

[Lizz]

I'd rather have Doug give away £1.5 million of his money to the NSPCC than endure tomorrow's parade of celebrities begging for us to part with ours for Comic Relief.   

I do, however, agree with Damon that there are better "hands on" children's charities than NSPCC.  I'd have personally given it to, for example, Childline.

Totally agree. I've already made a donation for Comic Relief via work, but I'd prefer not to see the slebs. I've mixed feelings about Cause Related Marketing/Social Corporate Responsibility. Ultimately, I assume charities can't be too choosy about how they raise finances nowadays, and if the donor gets some publicitiy, so be it.

[Dubav]

He's a decent old chap deep down! I admire the fact he still gets to games and bear him no ill will- he will always split fans opinions but for all his faults hes a good old stick and has mellowed with age.

Why wouldnt he go to the games he gets in for fcuk all ...

[Chris Smith]

Big fucking deal, it's a drop in the ocean to him after all the money he's made out of the Villa down the years.

A fucking damn sight more than most of the multi-millionaire players we have had over the years have bothered to donate.

You can't know that though, not everyone is as publicity hungry as Doug.

[Clampy]

He's a decent old chap deep down! I admire the fact he still gets to games and bear him no ill will- he will always split fans opinions but for all his faults hes a good old stick and has mellowed with age.

Why wouldnt he go to the games he gets in for fcuk all ...

I hope i'm still travelling to away games when i'm 89.

[Chris Smith]

As an aside, tomorrow I will be expected to part with pleny of cash for Comic Relief, just because we have some people taking phone pledges.

Its the same every year. When I won't get involved it is because I am not charitably minded. Which misses the point that I lay out for cancer, air ambulance, animal and lifeboat charities from my salary every month.

 

Which is the way for most people I'd imagine.

I'm not a religious person but the story of the widow's mite comes to mind. It's easy to appear generous when you're loaded, it's even easier if you haven't had to do a fat lot to get the money and it gets you some fawning publicity into the bargain. However, most charitable support, financial and practical, goes on without people getting their names in the paper.

[Witton Warrior]

As a slight aside I do find it annoying when I enter a supermarket for someone to ask me "would you like to help a disabled child sir?"
My stock answer is "Yes I do" and move swiftly on, with my disabled son (who gives to charity himself)...

[atticus snood]

To expand this thread, I wonder how history will judge HDE in years to come? He was our pantomime villains for years, but looking at how things are today, perhaps we were all too hard on him.

[dave.woodhall]

To expand this thread, I wonder how history will judge HDE in years to come? He was our pantomime villains for years, but looking at how things are today, perhaps we were all too hard on him.

I don't see us in the third division today, neither do I see anyone taking £40 million out of the club while hounding the manager of our greatest triumph to the grave and beyond.

[ktvillan]

I try to see the good in people but I'm afraid that where Mr self promotion is concerned I always find it difficult not to be cynical about his motives.      And it's not too difficult to make a case - egotists love a title, charitable deeds often seem to seal the knight hood deal for those already in the public eye, donations potentially tax deductible.  Of course I could be wrong and he might actually just be a thoroughly decent chap. In which case, fair play to him.     

[Dave Cooper please]

Big fucking deal, it's a drop in the ocean to him after all the money he's made out of the Villa down the years.

A fucking damn sight more than most of the multi-millionaire players we have had over the years have bothered to donate.

You can't know that though, not everyone is as publicity hungry as Doug.

But does it matter. So Uncle Doug boasts about giving cash to charity, at least the charity is getting the cash. And maybe by giving said charity some publicity they might just get a few more donations?
I don't get the hatred some of you have for Ellis, there are far more worthy targets for my ire than a bloke who just didn't spend as much as I'd have liked on the football club I support.

[atticus snood]

To expand this thread, I wonder how history will judge HDE in years to come? He was our pantomime villains for years, but looking at how things are today, perhaps we were all too hard on him.

I don't see us in the third division today, neither do I see anyone taking £40 million out of the club while hounding the manager of our greatest triumph to the grave and beyond.

Hounding him to the grave and beyond? Slightly hysterical and maybe libellous.

[dave.woodhall]

To expand this thread, I wonder how history will judge HDE in years to come? He was our pantomime villains for years, but looking at how things are today, perhaps we were all too hard on him.

I don't see us in the third division today, neither do I see anyone taking £40 million out of the club while hounding the manager of our greatest triumph to the grave and beyond.

Hounding him to the grave and beyond? Slightly hysterical and maybe libellous.

The truth isn't libellous. Would you care to know the facts?

[Chris Smith]

Big fucking deal, it's a drop in the ocean to him after all the money he's made out of the Villa down the years.

A fucking damn sight more than most of the multi-millionaire players we have had over the years have bothered to donate.

You can't know that though, not everyone is as publicity hungry as Doug.

But does it matter. So Uncle Doug boasts about giving cash to charity, at least the charity is getting the cash. And maybe by giving said charity some publicity they might just get a few more donations?
I don't get the hatred some of you have for Ellis, there are far more worthy targets for my ire than a bloke who just didn't spend as much as I'd have liked on the football club I support.

On a thread about Doug Ellis it's probably likely that we're going to give our opinions on Doug Ellis, rather than say the bloke who allegedly burnt his house down with all his kids inside. You aren't obliged to read it.

[atticus snood]

To expand this thread, I wonder how history will judge HDE in years to come? He was our pantomime villains for years, but looking at how things are today, perhaps we were all too hard on him.

I don't see us in the third division today, neither do I see anyone taking £40 million out of the club while hounding the manager of our greatest triumph to the grave and beyond.

Hounding him to the grave and beyond? Slightly hysterical and maybe libellous.

The truth isn't libellous. Would you care to know the facts?

Don't worry... I get it... Doug bad... Randy good.

[dave.woodhall]

To expand this thread, I wonder how history will judge HDE in years to come? He was our pantomime villains for years, but looking at how things are today, perhaps we were all too hard on him.

I don't see us in the third division today, neither do I see anyone taking £40 million out of the club while hounding the manager of our greatest triumph to the grave and beyond.

Hounding him to the grave and beyond? Slightly hysterical and maybe libellous.

The truth isn't libellous. Would you care to know the facts?

Don't worry... I get it... Doug bad... Randy good.

I'd be more than willing to repeat, for example, the tale of the benefit match which has been told on here before.