It's that time of year again!

[silhillvilla]

Depreciation of assets I'd guess.

[Greg N'Ash]

Or Houllier pay-off + TSM's signings not being that cheap?

Been trying to think who of the MON-era big earners would still be included in that period

Ivanhoe
Petrov
Cueller
Dunne
Collins
NRC,
Ireland
anymore? EDIT: Warnock of course

Plus if you guess that the clubs refusal to pay big wages started at the end of GH's reign (would make sense given the list of targets he reportedly wanted), then you'd include Bent and Makoun

Given that 5 of those names are still with us now, does that mean we'll take another hit in next year's accounts?

[LeeB]

Or Houllier pay-off + TSM's signings not being that cheap?

Been trying to think who of the MON-era big earners would still be included in that period

Ivanhoe
Petrov
Cueller
Dunne
Collins
NRC,
Ireland
anymore?

Plus if you guess that the clubs refusal to pay big wages started at the end of GH's reign (would make sense given the list of targets he reportedly wanted), then you'd include Bent and Makoun

Given that 5 of those names are still with us now, does that mean we'll take another hit in next year's accounts?

Given? Hutton?

That's what really rags me off with the shit we're in. We spent last season compounding the problems we'd already realised we had, making the job even harder this season.

[Greg N'Ash]

Or Houllier pay-off + TSM's signings not being that cheap?

Been trying to think who of the MON-era big earners would still be included in that period

Ivanhoe
Petrov
Cueller
Dunne
Collins
NRC,
Ireland
anymore?

Plus if you guess that the clubs refusal to pay big wages started at the end of GH's reign (would make sense given the list of targets he reportedly wanted), then you'd include Bent and Makoun

Given that 5 of those names are still with us now, does that mean we'll take another hit in next year's accounts?

Given? Hutton?

That's what really rags me off with the shit we're in. We spent last season compounding the problems we'd already realised we had, making the job even harder this season.

well thats the interesting point really. I'm pretty sure Faulkner and Co were spouting financial prudence from soon after Houllier got ill, if not before. So what are the likes of Given, Hutton and N'Zogbia on and if its mental money how does that sit with Faulkner's "Ajax of the midlands" Youth policy plan? Not very well i'm guessing.

[silhillvilla]

The club is worth what someone is willing to pay for it so I don't think you can rule out any figure. When it is sold, it will be to some foreign billionaire who wants a piece of the action and footballing history so don't rule anything out.

Keep dreaming that a gazillionaire is about to pony up £300m for us whilst knowing he'd have to spend at least that to get us anywhere near winning anything.

Back in the real world if Randy paid £60m for a club battling relegation with no debt I can't see anyone paying that for a club battling relegation with £100m of debt.

Well arsenal are being bought for £1.5Bn and I'd say we're worth at least 25% of what they are so about £350m sounds feasible .

[pauliewalnuts]

The club is worth what someone is willing to pay for it so I don't think you can rule out any figure. When it is sold, it will be to some foreign billionaire who wants a piece of the action and footballing history so don't rule anything out.

Keep dreaming that a gazillionaire is about to pony up £300m for us whilst knowing he'd have to spend at least that to get us anywhere near winning anything.

Back in the real world if Randy paid £60m for a club battling relegation with no debt I can't see anyone paying that for a club battling relegation with £100m of debt.

Well arsenal are being bought for £1.5Bn and I'd say we're worth at least 25% of what they are so about £350m sounds feasible .

Arsenal aren't being bought - they're not selling, which suggests the required money to buy that club would be higher than the 1.5 talked about.

Financial decisions like that aren't based on a "if they are worth this, we are worth that" basis, either.

Do the sums. Bought six years ago for £65m, when we had no debt.

We are now struggling for survival as we were in 2006, except this time, we've huge debts, too, but even so, you reckon we're worth more than 5 times what we were worth then?

[silhillvilla]

Easily yes, provided we stay a PL club.

[mr-villa]

So the £107m is the loans owed to the Lerner Trust??? Was it £70m that he paid Doug??? So that would be the thick end of £200m if anyone wanted to buy it off him???

Think Randy night be around for a while

Well if he sold it for £200 million he would have made £23million profit wouldn't he so not too bad.  If blues was sold for £80 million then surely Villa would be worth £200 million?

[Ad@m]

Easily yes, provided we stay a PL club.

I bet Randy wishes you were a billionnaire!!!

[Shrek]

The club is worth what someone is willing to pay for it so I don't think you can rule out any figure. When it is sold, it will be to some foreign billionaire who wants a piece of the action and footballing history so don't rule anything out.

Keep dreaming that a gazillionaire is about to pony up £300m for us whilst knowing he'd have to spend at least that to get us anywhere near winning anything.

Back in the real world if Randy paid £60m for a club battling relegation with no debt I can't see anyone paying that for a club battling relegation with £100m of debt.

Well arsenal are being bought for £1.5Bn and I'd say we're worth at least 25% of what they are so about £350m sounds feasible .

Arsenal aren't being bought - they're not selling, which suggests the required money to buy that club would be higher than the 1.5 talked about.

Financial decisions like that aren't based on a "if they are worth this, we are worth that" basis, either.

Do the sums. Bought six years ago for £65m, when we had no debt.

We are now struggling for survival as we were in 2006, except this time, we've huge debts, too, but even so, you reckon we're worth more than 5 times what we were worth then?

You are right Paulie, but if we stay up and Lambert's methods work out, we will be worth a lot more with the extra income next year.

Low wage bill, young playing staff with actual sell on value and huge income.

Of course get relegated it'll mean fuck all.

[john e]

The club is worth what someone is willing to pay for it so I don't think you can rule out any figure. When it is sold, it will be to some foreign billionaire who wants a piece of the action and footballing history so don't rule anything out.

Keep dreaming that a gazillionaire is about to pony up £300m for us whilst knowing he'd have to spend at least that to get us anywhere near winning anything.

Back in the real world if Randy paid £60m for a club battling relegation with no debt I can't see anyone paying that for a club battling relegation with £100m of debt.

Well arsenal are being bought for £1.5Bn and I'd say we're worth at least 25% of what they are so about £350m sounds feasible .

Arsenal aren't being bought - they're not selling, which suggests the required money to buy that club would be higher than the 1.5 talked about.

Financial decisions like that aren't based on a "if they are worth this, we are worth that" basis, either.

Do the sums. Bought six years ago for £65m, when we had no debt.

We are now struggling for survival as we were in 2006, except this time, we've huge debts, too, but even so, you reckon we're worth more than 5 times what we were worth then?

You are right Paulie, but if we stay up and Lambert's methods work out, we will be worth a lot more with the extra income next year.

Low wage bill, young playing staff with actual sell on value and huge income.

Of course get relegated it'll mean fuck all.

ha ha, true,
 its like a massive gamble on the Roulette table, everything on either black or red

[Risso]

ha ha, true,
 its like a massive gamble on the Roulette table, everything on either black or red

In terms of it actually paying off, more like sticking it all on number 19.

[silhillvilla]

Assuming we stay up, forget all the crap, we are a big club with big potential , we have the history and pedigree. We would easily fetch £300m in the mad world of Premier League football.

[itbrvilla]

So the £107m is the loans owed to the Lerner Trust??? Was it £70m that he paid Doug??? So that would be the thick end of £200m if anyone wanted to buy it off him???

Think Randy night be around for a while

Well if he sold it for £200 million he would have made £23million profit wouldn't he so not too bad.  If blues was sold for £80 million then surely Villa would be worth £200 million?

Blues were only ever worth £80m to the crooks that bought them for their own criminal needs.

[Ad@m]

Assuming we stay up, forget all the crap, we are a big club with big potential , we have the history and pedigree. We would easily fetch £300m in the mad world of Premier League football.

Based on what? In a considerably betterfinancial state less than 10 years ago we were worth £63m.

What justification is there to say anyonewould pay £300m?