Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Des Little]

Shaun Teale on Talksport just now: "Attack the ball. No matter how many players are around it, there's only one ball. Make it yours."

I'm no Shaun Teale but have been saying the same all season.  Center halves should be attacking every ball that comes into the box and having seen Vlaar's 'marking' of Fellani for the equalizer has there ever been a truer word.  A statue would have given it just as good a go.

I'd give my right arm to have Teale in our back four now.

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Let's be honest, Clark is a nervous wreck and Concrete Ron is more like Playdoh Ron.

We're a team with the worst goal difference in the league with a fairly decent front 2/3 who get goals. Yet our fucking Owner/Manager doesn't find the finances for a CB.

We're going down, not because we don't fight, but because the players can't bloody defend!!

[Jimbo]

And just one player like Teale would make all the difference. He doesn't have to be the most gifted, it's all about attitude and mental (and physical) strength.

[Surrey Villain]

West Ham now have a fit Andy Carroll back in the side.  They only have to pump a few crosses into the box next week and he will have a field day.  His goal yesterday was typical and worrying for our non-ability to defend.  There is also Carlton Cole.  Any team with tall strikers can beat us just given a few heading chances. 
We apparently couldn't afford the wages for a loan centre back.  Do the sums - £50k a week for the rest of the season is less than one million pounds. Not paying that is likely to cost us sixty million. How is that any form of sense?

[Villafirst]

Shaun Teale on Talksport just now: "Attack the ball. No matter how many players are around it, there's only one ball. Make it yours."

I think the loss of Richard Dunne all season so far is having a massive impact on these corners. I reckon if him and Vlaar (who I still rate) were playing together particularly at Swansea, West Brom and Everton then we would have the extra six points and be a lot more comfortable. Vlaar to a degree is still learning the Premier League and even he needs someone like Dunne to help him along initially. Losing Dunne so far, Collins and Cuellar and only having Vlaar (partly through injury) Clark and Baker to replace them is too much inexperience. I remember Dunne coming back from injury at West Brom last year in a big pressure game and having a big impact straight away and we drew 0-0 and could've won the game.

I'm no Shaun Teale but have been saying the same all season.  Center halves should be attacking every ball that comes into the box and having seen Vlaar's 'marking' of Fellani for the equalizer has there ever been a truer word.  A statue would have given it just as good a go.

I'd give my right arm to have Teale in our back four now.

[dl9]

Shaun Teale on Talksport just now: "Attack the ball. No matter how many players are around it, there's only one ball. Make it yours."

I'm no Shaun Teale but have been saying the same all season.  Center halves should be attacking every ball that comes into the box and having seen Vlaar's 'marking' of Fellani for the equalizer has there ever been a truer word.  A statue would have given it just as good a go.

I'd give my right arm to have Teale in our back four now.

If you think I'm going out on the piss with a one arm brother just because you want to see some 50 year old bloke in the middle of our defence then you've got another thing coming.....

[PeterWithe]

No, I know, MB, and I don't mean it in any way as a pop at you, I am just talking in general terms about how he's discussed on here (there have been photos before), and I might be overreacting, but I just feel a bit uneasy about it that's all.

Is carrying a bag full of costumes and a cabbage to the match really the behaviour of someone who shuns attention and just wants to be left alone?

[Dave Clark Five]

How did the fans react at the end, did many players come over?

Most of our fans were clapping. The players were clapping back from the middle of the pitch. We were rushing for a taxi so didn't stay to see if they came over. One or two bickering outside the ground but that's usually due to being pissed.

[JUAN PABLO]

well If we dont beat spammers , its goodnight vienna

[LeeB]

No, I know, MB, and I don't mean it in any way as a pop at you, I am just talking in general terms about how he's discussed on here (there have been photos before), and I might be overreacting, but I just feel a bit uneasy about it that's all.

Is carrying a bag full of costumes and a cabbage to the match really the behaviour of someone who shuns attention and just wants to be left alone?

No, I know, MB, and I don't mean it in any way as a pop at you, I am just talking in general terms about how he's discussed on here (there have been photos before), and I might be overreacting, but I just feel a bit uneasy about it that's all.

Is carrying a bag full of costumes and a cabbage to the match really the behaviour of someone who shuns attention and just wants to be left alone?

No, I know, MB, and I don't mean it in any way as a pop at you, I am just talking in general terms about how he's discussed on here (there have been photos before), and I might be overreacting, but I just feel a bit uneasy about it that's all.

Is carrying a bag full of costumes and a cabbage to the match really the behaviour of someone who shuns attention and just wants to be left alone?

Lol, rofl etc.

[achilles]

West Ham now have a fit Andy Carroll back in the side.  They only have to pump a few crosses into the box next week and he will have a field day.  His goal yesterday was typical and worrying for our non-ability to defend.  There is also Carlton Cole.  Any team with tall strikers can beat us just given a few heading chances. 
We apparently couldn't afford the wages for a loan centre back.  Do the sums - £50k a week for the rest of the season is less than one million pounds. Not paying that is likely to cost us sixty million. How is that any form of sense?

This was not the case, Lambchop didn't fancy anyone (i.e. centre back) on loan!

[Toronto Villa]

On the bright side, after countless weekends wrecked by defeats in recent seasons, let's take heart from a point.

So, in other words, not totally fucked.

There's a consolation point and there's a point gained. We got the former, and when it's so late in the game as it was against Swansea it's a bloody killer. Given how in recent weeks Reading and Newcastle have found ways to win games, the consolation points don't help as much.

[john e]

we all know the defense is poor, but i think a lot of it is in the minds of the players now, we have lost leads from promising positions so often that it almost becomes part of our DNA, panic stations all round

bringing in some big beafy defender seems to be the cure all answer, but i'm not so sure,
 i think its a team belief thing, yes i would have liked to have seen a new face or two in that department but the likes of Upson or Dann would gurantee very little in my view, Samba would be a different case, but we are not paying the big wages of such players for now, so thats it

there is normaly someone at fault in most goals that are scored in any game for any team,
for instance yesterday Everton who are supposed to be solid in defense were awful,
 both of Bentekes goals were scored against absolute woefull defending far worse than ours in  my view, if it was Clark who was skinned like the Everton defender was for the first we would be up in arms and quite rightly,

the defense is a massive problem i agree, but i still think its a team vulnerabilty and the fragile confidence that we have that causes us to concede under pressure, i've never known it quite so bad, i'm not sure new players would automaticaly put that right, what we really need is a couple of wins to make a difference to our confidence

[Mister E]

I think the loss of Richard Dunne all season so far is having a massive impact on these corners.

I know what you're saying but Dunne was part of the team that conceded from set pieces last season; and the season before.
Any half-decent CB should be able to do the basics of defending - head, clear, attack the ball - and so I have come to the conclusion that we have had a fundamental coaching problem for the last three years (even if that sounds incredible, given that we have had several different coaching influences over that time).

[eastie]

well If we dont beat spammers , its goodnight vienna

Are you rigsby in disguise?