Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[rutski]

I heard Newcastle cheer the final whistle from outside the ground.  I think we should just stop now.  I am finding the embarrasment and shame hard to bear.  Can we just sack it and agree now to go directly into the Championship without having the sheer misery of having to play any more games.  Let's just give all our opponents the 3 points they would have got anyway had the game been played and let all the players go out on loan from now to Championship sides so they keep fit for the start of the new season.  The manager could then go to every Norwich game and try and remember what the fuck he used to do before he came to Birmingham.

Just put the cover on the pitch and last man out flick off the lights, cheers, see you in August.

Can we do this please?

booo hooo. we aint relegated yet. until that fate is mathematically sealed i will believe! you pussys, well you can stay away and keep your negativity with ya!

[eastie]

Just got back home from the match, apologies but have not read through the thread but have just switched on Sky and they are reviewing the goals from the game.  Newcastle's first goal is marginally offside, the freeze frame at the time Sissoko makes the pass shows that Cisse's right leg is offside.  The assistant ref has missed it because he is not in line with the last defender but is a yard in front, shitty officials cost us again on that goal.

Bpllocks - lambert cost us the game not the officials!

Sorry Eastie just calling the game as I saw it on the replay, it is an offside goal.  I was at the match so I know only too well that Lambert got the system wrong at kick off, I presume you needed the radio commentators to tell you that.  We all know you do not need five at the back to mark one striker.

Frozen the frame this morning having recorded it late last night and at the moment the ball is passed cisse is onside just , played on by vlaar - and i thought so at the time when i saw it live - as for your radio snide remark, ive listened to one game on the radio in 3 years and that was at millwall.

I dont comment on things unless ive seen them .

[sid1964]

I put more effort in walking to the ground than Darren Bent, did  in his shameful first half performance! £80k a week (supposedly) and could not careless.

The sooner we are rid of him and players with that attitude then the club may progress.

[eastie]

Can hardly blame the officials for missing something if you had to freeze frame it to see his leg was offside. I'm all for giving them stick when they feck up but that seems a tad harsh.

No sorry not harsh at all if the lino had been positioned correctly he would have seen it.

He did see it - he was not offside , may i suggest a visit to specsavers or dixons to buy a new tv?
Maybe rather than bleating about the officials you might try blaming your manager and players for losing the game!

[kingus]

I think the writing is on the wall.  It is going to take something special to keep us up, and I just don't see where it is coming from (I still believe it is going happen, I just can see how, yet).

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

We were all over them in the second half. We did enough then to go and win the game.

It was like the WBA game in reverse, only we lost and should've won.

Also, the ref did fuck all about their continued time wasting, which they did from about 48 minutes onwards.

[baddowvillans]

Guess im a poor supporter as being all over them second half and achieving f all means zero points and one step nearer the championship

I agree Dean never appeared to speak to them about timwe wasting but we got 5 extra minutes - about as ling as you get.

[Ron Manager]

What I dont understand is why the home support havent directed their frustration and anger at Lambert in a very vocal manner. Whether Randy likes  it or not Lambert has failed in a way that even Alex McCleish would be pushed to achieve. Its got to the point where I dread him
being interviewed by Sky. Apart from the fact that being interviewed is not his forte he doesnt say anything remotely interesting about anything.Not something you would ever accuse Arry of. Also he doesnt appear to have a sense of humour which doesnt enamour him to the viewing public.

That first half was shocking even by our shocking standards. I dont think anything will be done at all and we will be relegated. Obviously Benteke will go and Bent may go in this window to a club that will provide him with the service he needs to score goals. Perhaps even Weimann will move on as well.

Each week we seem to reach a lower point of performance.

The buck stops with Lambert and his awful training staff

Gentlemen (and Lizz) we have been conned.

[silhillvilla]

I put more effort in walking to the ground than Darren Bent, did  in his shameful first half performance! £80k a week (supposedly) and could not careless.

The sooner we are rid of him and players with that attitude then the club may progress.

I don't get this. Bent was given sweet FA service tbh. He can't just magic up goals .

[eastie]

What I dont understand is why the home support havent directed their frustration and anger at Lambert in a very vocal manner. Whether Randy likes  it or not Lambert has failed in a way that even Alex McCleish would be pushed to achieve. Its got to the point where I dread him
being interviewed by Sky. Apart from the fact that being interviewed is not his forte he doesnt say anything remotely interesting about anything.Not something you would ever accuse Arry of. Also he doesnt appear to have a sense of humour which doesnt enamour him to the viewing public.

That first half was shocking even by our shocking standards. I dont think anything will be done at all and we will be relegated. Obviously Benteke will go and Bent may go in this window to a club that will provide him with the service he needs to score goals. Perhaps even Weimann will move on as well.

Each week we seem to reach a lower point of performance.

The buck stops with Lambert and his awful training staff

Gentlemen (and Lizz) we have been conned.

Sad but true .

[DerHammer]

Well, Championship football will be at Villa Park next season, last night was the final nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned.

What bothers me is that last night was a home game, yet our mentality was to act as the away team for the first half, why? I seriously don't think that was Lambert's game plan at all. The players need some sort of sports pyschologist to stop us being a one half team as this has been a mental issue for us even back in the MON days. We only attacked in the second half because A. We had to & B. Newcastle were comfortably winning

What we need to do is have the mentality to want to play that way throughout the full 90 mins. In other games I see you get either complete dominance from one team or it's 50/50 to a degree where each team has spells of 10-20 minutes with the upper hand. Our games are so very different to these & I firmly beleive it's down to a poor mentality with our players which needs adressing urgently.

[Ron Manager]

I put more effort in walking to the ground than Darren Bent, did  in his shameful first half performance! £80k a week (supposedly) and could not careless.

The sooner we are rid of him and players with that attitude then the club may progress.

I don't get this. Bent was given sweet FA service tbh. He can't just magic up goals .

I'll name that tune in one!

[PaulWinch again]

The 3 centre backs will never work because they're not good enough. They're not positionally good enough at all. If you have two you at least know your job and also our midfield doesn't get overrun.

[Ads]

Lambert is a fool. To play that system...

I think we will go down and I think we will finish bottom. I cannot believe that we are not going to buy/loan and improve that squad. To hear Redknapp and Martinez say they are going to go out and do something to stay in the league, while we do nothing is a joke. This is Aston Villa for fucks sake. We are bigger than QPR and Wigan, combined, ten times over and we cannot afford to do anything?

Act like a  Championship side and you will soon become one.

We have a manager that organises like one too. The time to sack him was weeks ago. The man is a bafoon that makes the previous manager look dynamic.

The second half was much better. We played with players knowing their role and with width for the first time this season. The pace on our left murdered their full back second half.

We actually created a lot of good chances for once and probably should have picked up at least a point.

We didn't and there is only one man to blame. Paul Lambert; worse than McNeill, worse than Turner and worse than McLiesh.

Everton and Arsenal away and Man City at home in the next four. We have no chance of winning the five/six more games we need to. Six goals conceded and one in reply in three home games the might of Wigan, Southampton and Newcastle. We are truly awful and will (not if anymore, hope is dead) be relegated.

Lerner and Faulkner share the bafoon status. We are appallingly run.

I dreamt last night that we won 9 out of first 10 in the Championship. We drew with Blackpool, but smashed Barnsley, Leeds, Boro, Leicester, Derby, Wolves, Sheffield Utd, SHA and Watford. That was a dream, as this side will struggle in the Mickey Mouse league.

It gets worse. If the fool Lerner is not willing to spend to stay in the league, then with income dramatically slashed, what chance is there of him spending any in the Mickey Mouse league?

What an awful future we face.

[Lambert and Payne]

Were 33/1 with Paddy Power to get relegated next season in the Championship. I can't believe I'm tempted...