Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[preston28]

Lambert playing Bent was a huge mistake, when Weiman and Gabby came on we looked a different side. Still no alternitive though to lobbing the ball to Benteke and hoping for the best. Still Newcastle are shit and havn't won away so it says a lot about us at the moment.

Do you think he played Bent & Benteke because Lawro said so in his prediction?!!

[olaftab]

One other thing - when Steven Taylor was bouncing up and down in front of Guzan , trying to make it difficult for Guzan to communicate with the players in the wall - not one, not fucking one of our players turned round and came to shift him. Shows the team spirit this failure of a manager has instilled in the club. Pathetic.

Obviously I didn't see the incident referred to there, but if one of our players went back to "shift" Taylor, wouldn't they have suddenly dropped the offside line back within the 6 yard box (or wherever Taylor was) for all the Newcastle players if the free kick was taken quickly.

Well this was before wall was ready and Guzan was on his left post so agreeing with Fins dads comment. Taylor really pissed me off there. Fucking nob.

[amfy]

What did that tosser in the Lower Holte's flag say? It'd be nice to know what my opinion is.

If its the one I think you mean I think it might have said "fight like lions". To be fair I was fairly happy with that, so I hope that is what it said.

[silhillvilla]

Just back. Can someone please explain what the fuck that first half was.

[Legion]

[comebacksid]

Pat Murphy interviewed Lambert whilst I was on the way back down the M5 after the match. When Pat suggested the system he played in the 1st half was all wrong, Lambert replied "It's nothing to do with systems". What?! When he suggested the Villa are in a fight (to avoid relegation), Lambert replied "You're in a fight". Not "I'm in a fight" or "We're in a fight" but "You're in a fight"!! Blind, Clueless, Spineless, Useless Bastard!!!

[Clampy]

Shit first half. Decent second. We're definitely a team of two halves.

Looks that way.

I thought we deserved a point out of that but that fact that we did'nt is worrying.

[Gareth]

Not read any posts yet so my two penneth is.

Bent - he needs to go, he spent 45 minutes with the sole aim of not getting hurt.

3 centre halves is bad, they struggled to work out who was marking and who was spare all the first halves.

Would hate to be a full back under Lambert, 9 men down the centre 10m of the pitch and 2 poor buggers expected to defend, operate with no cover and provide all the wide attacking threat. 

We are always told you have to earn the right to play, 2x5ft nothing 8 stone weaklings in the centre will never cut it....big, strong DCM is a must by Thursday or I presume the manager and board have conceded relegation.

We can argue the bounce was against us or Dean was a prat buying all their rolling around but the long and short of it was we weren't good enough either in personnel on field or in the brain of the manager.

PS - fair play to Pardew and most of Newcastle bench for 19th minute applause

[olaftab]

Lambert playing Bent was a huge mistake, when Weiman and Gabby came on we looked a different side. Still no alternitive though to lobbing the ball to Benteke and hoping for the best. Still Newcastle are shit and havn't won away so it says a lot about us at the moment.

Do you think he played Bent & Benteke because Lawro said so in his prediction?!!

Playing Bent wasn't a problem it's playing 3  centre backs and 2 wing backs who haven't got a clue how to do that was the problem. In fact if Bent had been around in the second half he may have snatched a couple with all the chances we had.

[danlanza]

Nothing wrong with that flags statement at all. It just maybe to late though.

[Somniloquism]

One other thing - when Steven Taylor was bouncing up and down in front of Guzan , trying to make it difficult for Guzan to communicate with the players in the wall - not one, not fucking one of our players turned round and came to shift him. Shows the team spirit this failure of a manager has instilled in the club. Pathetic.

Obviously I didn't see the incident referred to there, but if one of our players went back to "shift" Taylor, wouldn't they have suddenly dropped the offside line back within the 6 yard box (or wherever Taylor was) for all the Newcastle players if the free kick was taken quickly.

Well this was before wall was ready and Guzan was on his left post so agreeing with Fins dads comment. Taylor really pissed me off there. Fucking nob.

I'm assuming the ref had indicated that a whistle was needed to restart it but after the Arsenal game, I never take that for granted. The other issue why it might have been a bad idea is they are so inexperienced, they probably would have done something to allow Taylor to drop like he was hit by a gunshot and give away a red card and possible pen.

[Clampy]

Bannan gets harsh treatment in my opinion.  I live abroad so don't get back to many games these days but I was at the Hawthorns the other week and everything was Bannan's fault.  And I mean EVERYTHING.  I think he has definite ability but his confidence is clearly in tatters at the moment.  He also needs to play further forward where he can pick passes, he's also a very decent crosser from open play.

One thing I can't fathom is people claiming he's lazy.  He works his face off every game as far as I can see.

He and Westwood were massively swamped in the first half but it was hardly their fault.

On a separate note - I love Weimann and think he will go on to have a great career.  He has a fantastic attitude.

Got to agree. Bannan put more of a shift in tonight than Ireland has in all the time he's been here.

[Des Little]

Playing Bent without giving him any service is totally pointless - no width whatsoever. We may as well sell Bent now and spunk the funds on two half decent players. Then again any decent players won't want to come will they?

[saunders_heroes]

Bannan gets harsh treatment in my opinion.  I live abroad so don't get back to many games these days but I was at the Hawthorns the other week and everything was Bannan's fault.  And I mean EVERYTHING.  I think he has definite ability but his confidence is clearly in tatters at the moment.  He also needs to play further forward where he can pick passes, he's also a very decent crosser from open play.

One thing I can't fathom is people claiming he's lazy.  He works his face off every game as far as I can see.

He and Westwood were massively swamped in the first half but it was hardly their fault.

On a separate note - I love Weimann and think he will go on to have a great career.  He has a fantastic attitude.

Got to agree. Bannan put more of a shift in tonight than Ireland has in all the time he's been here.

Talk about damned with faint praise!

[TopDeck113]

The only thing keeping me sane is knowing that I'm not alone... Night all.  Saturday I'm off to Goodison with an Everton fan.  We go again...