Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[neo_Villan]

Bannan was only decent second half because they sat back and there was no pressure him in possession. Same goes for Westwood.

[Fin Feds Dad]

One other thing - when Steven Taylor was bouncing up and down in front of Guzan , trying to make it difficult for Guzan to communicate with the players in the wall - not one, not fucking one of our players turned round and came to shift him. Shows the team spirit this failure of a manager has instilled in the club. Pathetic.

Obviously I didn't see the incident referred to there, but if one of our players went back to "shift" Taylor, wouldn't they have suddenly dropped the offside line back within the 6 yard box (or wherever Taylor was) for all the Newcastle players if the free kick was taken quickly.

Taylor was the only newcastle bloke in the box. He was making a right nuisance of himself and not one of our lot turned hair.

[Mortimer's Bear]

Bannan was only decent second half because they sat back and there was no pressure him in possession. Same goes for Westwood.

God forbid he actually gets a modicum of credit for improving in the second half.

[andrew08]

Me and Fin Feds Dad were watching the players warm up before the match. It was the bit where the players take shots at Given in the 'other' net. It was pathetic, not one of the players scored and they were clearly just messing around. Totally amateurish and achieving nothing. Given didn't get anything out if it and the players didn't prepare correctly. Not impressed.

[Mortimer's Bear]

right I'm off to bed, goodnight all

[Jockey Randall]

Bannan always tries his best, I don't think it's right to slag people off just because they may not be good enough for this league. For now he is part of this squad and until he starts looking like he doesn't care what happens (which I doubt will ever happen) then he'll get my backing.

[eastie]

Me and Fin Feds Dad were watching the players warm up before the match. It was the bit where the players take shots at Given in the 'other' net. It was pathetic, not one of the players scored and they were clearly just messing around. Totally amateurish and achieving nothing. Given didn't get anything out if it and the players didn't prepare correctly. Not impressed.

But where was fin fed?

[Fin Feds Dad]

Me and Fin Feds Dad were watching the players warm up before the match. It was the bit where the players take shots at Given in the 'other' net. It was pathetic, not one of the players scored and they were clearly just messing around. Totally amateurish and achieving nothing. Given didn't get anything out if it and the players didn't prepare correctly. Not impressed.

Andy, it was very similar to Bannans and Westwoods 'shots' from outside the box tonight.

[Somniloquism]

One other thing - when Steven Taylor was bouncing up and down in front of Guzan , trying to make it difficult for Guzan to communicate with the players in the wall - not one, not fucking one of our players turned round and came to shift him. Shows the team spirit this failure of a manager has instilled in the club. Pathetic.

Obviously I didn't see the incident referred to there, but if one of our players went back to "shift" Taylor, wouldn't they have suddenly dropped the offside line back within the 6 yard box (or wherever Taylor was) for all the Newcastle players if the free kick was taken quickly.

Taylor was the only newcastle bloke in the box. He was making a right nuisance of himself and not one of our lot turned hair.

But my point still stands, whilst he is there, he is off side and out of the game and will have to come back on side for the FK. If one of our players drops back to shift him, Newcastle players could suddenly follow him in and be on top of the keeper for a quick floated ball. It is one of those that is difficult to call but I wouldn't chastise them for that. Everything else tonight though......

[eastie]

right I'm off to bed, goodnight all

Is the cat in?

[damon loves JT]

I haven't thrown in the towel just yet.

[Fin Feds Dad]

Me and Fin Feds Dad were watching the players warm up before the match. It was the bit where the players take shots at Given in the 'other' net. It was pathetic, not one of the players scored and they were clearly just messing around. Totally amateurish and achieving nothing. Given didn't get anything out if it and the players didn't prepare correctly. Not impressed.

But where was fin fed?

F' in Fed up,  Eastie !

[Legion]

Shit first half. Decent second. We're definitely a team of two halves.

[Lobsterboy]

Most frustrating thing is its only jan still have have 14 games left we ain't gonna win em all but have over 40 points to play for.I know its difficult but villa fans need to be behind the club more than ever,to avoid relegation we need 5 wins,can't be having ppl saying relegation is a certainty,however I can't believe that the club are doing nothing to stop the rot,quite simply 2-3 experienced heads are needed with a leader to get the youngsters and the game by the scruff of the neck and sort it out! With very little money we have I think we need to stand by lambert till end of season as as it may cause more disruption sacking him.We can't afford to sack him,the more money we have for the next 2 days the better,next two days are crucial though!!!! Villa till I die!!!!

We have won 4 games out of 24; this would indicate 5 wins out of the next 14 is a) unlikely b) unlikely and c) very unlikely

There is little point backing Lambert; he will more than likely waste it on sub standard Championship players aged 18-22 rather than the experience a blind man on a galloping horse can see we need

[Olof's Beard]

Bannan gets harsh treatment in my opinion.  I live abroad so don't get back to many games these days but I was at the Hawthorns the other week and everything was Bannan's fault.  And I mean EVERYTHING.  I think he has definite ability but his confidence is clearly in tatters at the moment.  He also needs to play further forward where he can pick passes, he's also a very decent crosser from open play.

One thing I can't fathom is people claiming he's lazy.  He works his face off every game as far as I can see.

He and Westwood were massively swamped in the first half but it was hardly their fault.

On a separate note - I love Weimann and think he will go on to have a great career.  He has a fantastic attitude.