Quote from: Phil from the upper holte on January 28, 2013, 07:18:18 PMAlso if he's saying there is money why is Lambert saying there isn't?Thats what i'm wondering.
Also if he's saying there is money why is Lambert saying there isn't?
Quote from: Phil from the upper holte on January 28, 2013, 07:14:35 PMQuote from: Drummond on January 28, 2013, 03:52:20 PMQuote from: Phil from the upper holte on January 28, 2013, 03:46:39 PMWhat's he said Drummond? Fuck all, we still aint had any re-assurances about anything just a hash that looks pretty much like everything lambert has been saying for weeksWhat reassurance do you want? Everything is rosy, we're going to be fine, we're sacking the manager, getting Mourinho in and signing Messi and Ronaldo?Get real. He's said he supports the manager, the strategy is to back him, manage the money and try and sign players. And he's confirmed that in essence we've spunked a load of cash and won fuck all over the past few years. He ain't wrong.Only he hasn't really backed him, he's had a moderate amount of money vs the amount of players he's had to buy and were still a small squadThat's just not true, we're actually one of the few clubs who registered a full squad of 25 in the summer. The problem is to do with the amount of those players who are 22-23 and have only played a handful (or less) of premier league games in their career.If you don't believe me - click here
Quote from: Drummond on January 28, 2013, 03:52:20 PMQuote from: Phil from the upper holte on January 28, 2013, 03:46:39 PMWhat's he said Drummond? Fuck all, we still aint had any re-assurances about anything just a hash that looks pretty much like everything lambert has been saying for weeksWhat reassurance do you want? Everything is rosy, we're going to be fine, we're sacking the manager, getting Mourinho in and signing Messi and Ronaldo?Get real. He's said he supports the manager, the strategy is to back him, manage the money and try and sign players. And he's confirmed that in essence we've spunked a load of cash and won fuck all over the past few years. He ain't wrong.Only he hasn't really backed him, he's had a moderate amount of money vs the amount of players he's had to buy and were still a small squad
Quote from: Phil from the upper holte on January 28, 2013, 03:46:39 PMWhat's he said Drummond? Fuck all, we still aint had any re-assurances about anything just a hash that looks pretty much like everything lambert has been saying for weeksWhat reassurance do you want? Everything is rosy, we're going to be fine, we're sacking the manager, getting Mourinho in and signing Messi and Ronaldo?Get real. He's said he supports the manager, the strategy is to back him, manage the money and try and sign players. And he's confirmed that in essence we've spunked a load of cash and won fuck all over the past few years. He ain't wrong.
What's he said Drummond? Fuck all, we still aint had any re-assurances about anything just a hash that looks pretty much like everything lambert has been saying for weeks
Quote from: Drummond on January 28, 2013, 05:26:40 PMI think he's just saying what everyone else has for a while. We've spent a shedload of cash to get precisely nowhere. We're probably at the bottom of a value for money table.Especially this season. £23m to be much worse than McLeish, jesus h christ.
I think he's just saying what everyone else has for a while. We've spent a shedload of cash to get precisely nowhere. We're probably at the bottom of a value for money table.
Quote from: neo_Villan on January 28, 2013, 05:21:06 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 28, 2013, 04:09:29 PMQuote from: neo_Villan on January 28, 2013, 04:06:32 PMI'm sorry, it doesn't even come across as if it was written by someone who is supposed to be a fan. No passion or emotion in it. The final paragraph starts with 'On a personal note...' but what exactly was personal about it? It sounded as formal as the rest of the statement. It sounds no different to a statement that would be released by someone like McDonalds if they were found guilty of food poisoning. It is just a damage limitation exercise with Lerner knowing that a loss against Newcastle will mean the he will permenantly lose the vast majority of fans. This is just an attempt to nip some of this unrest in the bud. Well Mr Lerner, you may subdue some with this hollow statement, but you don't fool me! What do you want - an ending of SOTC? Of course it's formal; it's a professional business statement. It's not a Facebook status. It wouldn't have done any harm In all seriousness though, after waiting so long to even hear from the owner of the club, I expected more then the usual vote of confidence guff. Firsty, I expected an admission of just how bad the current situation is. Then I expected a clear plan outlined as to how we can turn it around. What did we learn from the statement? We are keeping the same clueless manager who has presided over the worst 5 weeks in a generation (if not in our entire history!) and he may be backed with a couple of deadline day signings which will be too little, too late. Lerner is just playing Russian Roulette with our top-flight status and that is quite simply unacceptable. A little honesty wouldn't go amiss either. 'Players have been discussed but nothing has materialised.' Do they expect us to swallow that whole? Lambert may be useless but he knows his way around the market. I don't believe for a second he wouldn't have been able to pull at least one deal off by now if he had money. I think we have gone back to the sell-to-buy policy (remember Vlaar being messed around until we had sold Collins?) and they expected Bent to have gone by now. Some people seem to be suggesting that we should be grateful that he has released this statement. But our gripe is he doesn't communicate enough. This one-off statement doesn't change that.You wanted them to say things are as bad as you think they are, then sack the manager and sign new players? Then because this didn't happen they're telling fibs. Still, as you said earlier and while we're quoting eighties musical icons, there ain't no fooling you.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 28, 2013, 04:09:29 PMQuote from: neo_Villan on January 28, 2013, 04:06:32 PMI'm sorry, it doesn't even come across as if it was written by someone who is supposed to be a fan. No passion or emotion in it. The final paragraph starts with 'On a personal note...' but what exactly was personal about it? It sounded as formal as the rest of the statement. It sounds no different to a statement that would be released by someone like McDonalds if they were found guilty of food poisoning. It is just a damage limitation exercise with Lerner knowing that a loss against Newcastle will mean the he will permenantly lose the vast majority of fans. This is just an attempt to nip some of this unrest in the bud. Well Mr Lerner, you may subdue some with this hollow statement, but you don't fool me! What do you want - an ending of SOTC? Of course it's formal; it's a professional business statement. It's not a Facebook status. It wouldn't have done any harm In all seriousness though, after waiting so long to even hear from the owner of the club, I expected more then the usual vote of confidence guff. Firsty, I expected an admission of just how bad the current situation is. Then I expected a clear plan outlined as to how we can turn it around. What did we learn from the statement? We are keeping the same clueless manager who has presided over the worst 5 weeks in a generation (if not in our entire history!) and he may be backed with a couple of deadline day signings which will be too little, too late. Lerner is just playing Russian Roulette with our top-flight status and that is quite simply unacceptable. A little honesty wouldn't go amiss either. 'Players have been discussed but nothing has materialised.' Do they expect us to swallow that whole? Lambert may be useless but he knows his way around the market. I don't believe for a second he wouldn't have been able to pull at least one deal off by now if he had money. I think we have gone back to the sell-to-buy policy (remember Vlaar being messed around until we had sold Collins?) and they expected Bent to have gone by now. Some people seem to be suggesting that we should be grateful that he has released this statement. But our gripe is he doesn't communicate enough. This one-off statement doesn't change that.
Quote from: neo_Villan on January 28, 2013, 04:06:32 PMI'm sorry, it doesn't even come across as if it was written by someone who is supposed to be a fan. No passion or emotion in it. The final paragraph starts with 'On a personal note...' but what exactly was personal about it? It sounded as formal as the rest of the statement. It sounds no different to a statement that would be released by someone like McDonalds if they were found guilty of food poisoning. It is just a damage limitation exercise with Lerner knowing that a loss against Newcastle will mean the he will permenantly lose the vast majority of fans. This is just an attempt to nip some of this unrest in the bud. Well Mr Lerner, you may subdue some with this hollow statement, but you don't fool me! What do you want - an ending of SOTC? Of course it's formal; it's a professional business statement. It's not a Facebook status.
I'm sorry, it doesn't even come across as if it was written by someone who is supposed to be a fan. No passion or emotion in it. The final paragraph starts with 'On a personal note...' but what exactly was personal about it? It sounded as formal as the rest of the statement. It sounds no different to a statement that would be released by someone like McDonalds if they were found guilty of food poisoning. It is just a damage limitation exercise with Lerner knowing that a loss against Newcastle will mean the he will permenantly lose the vast majority of fans. This is just an attempt to nip some of this unrest in the bud. Well Mr Lerner, you may subdue some with this hollow statement, but you don't fool me!
Is it not possible to comment on each situation as and when it occurs?
Well for better or probably worse at least we know where things stand now.Get behind the team and pray for the miracle us actually winning a league game again one day.Actually that's a good heartbreaking bet, anyone know the odds on us not winning another game all season?
Also Hutton, warnock, Dunne, not even featured