Why was McLeish sacked?

[dicedlam]

The celebratory 'fist pump' he made having managed a draw at home to Stoke was one of the most embarrassing and lowest points I can remember while he was here.
I think Alexander Hleb summed him up nicely when he said  "The day before a game he would come onto the pitch and show us what to do: 'You stand here, the goalkeeper will give you the ball here, kick it as far as you can and don't pass to anyone nearby. And we all run.'"

I really couldn't give a flying if he was a nice bloke to be honest, is philosophy on football and what he dished up was truly shocking .

[Isa]

Oh true, Lambert is not anywhere near trusting enough of the younger players. Just McLeish was as untrusting.

I'd have to disagree. While certain injuries did force McLeish's hand on this issue, it was never at a stage where he had literally no choice but to give opportunities to those he did. Gardner was given his debut in December after a successful loan spell at Coventry. Not down to any particular injury. Weimann was given a run after the winner at Fulham. If Lambert were in charge, he probably would've treated him as he has Callum Robinson and not even given him a chance to impress from the bench in the first place. Not to mention handing Carruthers his debut when we were 1-0 up at Anfield. We both know that is something Lambert wouldn't do in a million years. He wouldn't even bring Robinson on when we were 4-1 up against Norwich for crying out loud.

[Matt C]

There are absolutely zero redeeming features from McLeish's tenure. Complete and utter unmitigated disaster.

[mr underhill]

yes and we're drowning in a tumult of positive gifts Lambert's bestowed on the club aren't we

[steamer]

because he should never have been appointed in the first place.

[lovejoy]

Can I say financial constraints at this point?

[Dante Lavelli]

I felt that McL had lost the crowd completely. It was irreparable.  Take for example the crowd singing for Lambert at the end of the season.  I'm not sure a club can continue when the disconnect between the manager and the fans is so vast.

If you critically analyse his performance from a neutral performance it was also pretty terrible: derided by the media, awful to watch and signings which now look a complete waste of money (Hutton, Given (whilst pushing Guzan out), Nzogbia and Jenas).

If the real point of the opening post was a dig at Lambert then I do not think he's been anywhere near as bad and ultimately would be leaving the club in a healthier state (lower wage base, some assets which have increased in value and still in the premier league with a young team which the most fans I speak to think quite highly of (in comparison).

[junxs]

I think Lamberts doing a fine job, yes the last 2 results have been really bad - but overall with all things considered I wont complain.

At first I thought he shot himself in the foot by refusing to play all the seniors but it's pretty clear over time that he was told to reduce the wages. His signings have been bargain basement and the majority of them have developed really well under his guidance. We've improved results wise from last season and this summer I think he will be only be targeting certain positions so he wont need to spread his budget so thinly.

I say judge him this time next year, and theres absolutely no comparison with McLiesh in my eyes.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Is David Cameron a ******? Is Nigel Farage a racist twat? Does 2+2=4? Have we won the European Cup?

This is fun coming up with questions where the answer is blindingly obvious.

[LeeB]

Is David Cameron a c***? Is Nigel Farage a racist twat? Does 2+2=4? Have we won the European Cup?

This is fun coming up with questions where the answer is blindingly obvious.

Who's been relegated more than any other team? Actually that's a good one as it brings us back round to the subject.

[Mister E]

Going back to the post that kicked off the OT revival:

He was treated horrendously by the fans ...

- when non-Villa-supporting people ask me about the TSM 'era', I talk about how long-suffering the fans were: it was only at Wigan away (end of Feb) that I first heard anti-TSM chanting. I was surprised it had taken so long ... I think we cut him alot of slack, TBH.
Granted, it got alot worse quickly after that.

.. and given no support from Lerner.

I think that is plain wrong.
He was given a 3 year contract and funds to sign Given, N'Zog and Hutton, all on long contracts and all of whom have proved to be a millstone (Given, TBF,  has at least given us some decent performances). N'Zog, for me, was a complete waste and was bought on TSM's vanity as much as anything else (he'd tried desperately to sign him when at the Bloos).

I think TSM was given a good crack of the whip; I just don't think he was up to the job that was required.

[Clampy]

because he should never have been appointed in the first place.

Is the right answer.

[rob_bridge]

He was sacked because he was Fucking Shit.

And the people who recruited him were even Fucking Shitte.

What is worse though, much worse was his appointment - it screamed 'WELCOME TO THE SMALL TIME, VILLA'

[danlanza]

The fact that there's only one single person on this forum who feels that McLeish was harshly treated says it all really.

To be fair, Dan seems to agree as well, so that's two people. But based on his conspiracy nonsense he does seem to be the suggestible type.

Try another angle of attack. I am rather bored of that one Dave. There's a good fella.

[JUAN PABLO]

Every time I watched Blose under TSM , it was the worse bloody football I had ever seen.

So why employ him . I will never know.