Have the club accepted relegation?

[mrfuse]

If (A really big one, as all the signs seem to point one direction), we don't buy anyone, Lambert stays in the job, and we don't get relegated, we could be in a really good position to buy players in the summer. For me, this is the 'all eggs in one basket' approach that the board are hoping for/clinging to.

It looks very unlikely though.

If that was the scenario Learner will then think "well we stayed up and I didn't spend any money last season when we were in trouble so there's no reason to do it again"

[pauliewalnuts]

Surely the best thing to do isn't to start refusing to buy anything in the ground, refusing to go to games, waving banners etc etc - all things suggested in previous pages - but to get behind the team, to show the board that whilst they may be thinking of going down without a fight, we aren't.

Then Lerner has downgraded us and we've just sat back and taken it?

Then if we get relegated, we've not done everything we can to stop it.

Shouting at Lerner is not going to change anything. He doesn't go to matches, and I don't really believe this recently created image of him, with him sat like a Bond villain, getting every match beamed back to him via his own personal satellite feed, either.

The kids need confidence. They're not going to get that if they see people walking out after 30 minutes, or hear them getting thrown abuse at them - and throwing abuse at a chairman who clearly doesn't care, and isn't there anyway is not going to perk them up much, either.

[mrfuse]

I drafted a letter...

Dear Mr Lambert,

WTF are you doing?

Yours sincerely

Mr NZMAV

Dear Mr NZMAV,


Im planning for relegation as per the bosses instruction's and I'm doing a hell of of a job at it.

Yours sincerely

Mr Lambert

[PaulWinch again]

I think it's dangerous to assume that, were we to go down, we'd do a Newcastle and come back up. Newcastle used their relegation to shed a load of crud, and held on to their best players.

Our crud seems to be totally unshiftable, and the rest of the squad looks like it belongs in the championship, with a few exceptions - and they're all players who'd be off the minute we went down. The likes of Benteke, for example.

This year there's also the added incentive of missing out on the gigantic money pot which will only ecacerbate the gulf between the PL teams and the rest.

It's really not a good time to be drifting away and out of the top flight.

Not a chance would we cruise the Championship, and also as you say we'd be so far behind even if we did that we'd be knackered.

[not3bad]

Surely the best thing to do isn't to start refusing to buy anything in the ground, refusing to go to games, waving banners etc etc - all things suggested in previous pages - but to get behind the team, to show the board that whilst they may be thinking of going down without a fight, we aren't.

I doubt lerner would even bat an eyelid.

On the contrary he would probably think "they're so loyal!  They'll still be behind the team when they're in the championship"...

[hilts_coolerking]

Then if we get relegated, we've not done everything we can to stop it.

Shouting at Lerner is not going to change anything. He doesn't go to matches, and I don't really believe this recently created image of him, with him sat like a Bond villain, getting every match beamed back to him via his own personal satellite feed, either.

The kids need confidence. They're not going to get that if they see people walking out after 30 minutes, or hear them getting thrown abuse at them - and throwing abuse at a chairman who clearly doesn't care, and isn't there anyway is not going to perk them up much, either.

That's the trick isn't it: to still support the team passionately but to still somehow register your extreme disapproval of how the club is being run.

I agree though.  I keep saying that we have to give ourselves the best possible chance to stay up and giving certain players the dog's abuse isn't a part of that.  I don't see how we could hammer Lerner and Faulkner for not doing all they can if we the supporters aren't also doing all we can.

[danlanza]

I drafted a letter...

Dear Mr Lambert,

WTF are you doing?

Yours sincerely

Mr NZMAV

Perfectly acceptable. I sent the same letter to Lerner and Faulkner. As of yet, no reply........Strange, don't you think?

[MonsXI]

Then if we get relegated, we've not done everything we can to stop it.

Shouting at Lerner is not going to change anything. He doesn't go to matches, and I don't really believe this recently created image of him, with him sat like a Bond villain, getting every match beamed back to him via his own personal satellite feed, either.

The kids need confidence. They're not going to get that if they see people walking out after 30 minutes, or hear them getting thrown abuse at them - and throwing abuse at a chairman who clearly doesn't care, and isn't there anyway is not going to perk them up much, either.

That's the trick isn't it: to still support the team passionately but to still somehow register your extreme disapproval of how the club is being run.

I agree though.  I keep saying that we have to give ourselves the best possible chance to stay up and giving certain players the dog's abuse isn't a part of that.  I don't see how we could hammer Lerner and Faulkner for not doing all they can if we the supporters aren't also doing all we can.

I agree completely that we need to still back the team BUT us doing nothing at all is mirroring the clubs behaviour. I would never protest in the ground unless every alternative had been exhausted but we defientely need a way to show Lerner/Faulkner that this isnt acceptable.

[danlanza]

Then if we get relegated, we've not done everything we can to stop it.

Shouting at Lerner is not going to change anything. He doesn't go to matches, and I don't really believe this recently created image of him, with him sat like a Bond villain, getting every match beamed back to him via his own personal satellite feed, either.

The kids need confidence. They're not going to get that if they see people walking out after 30 minutes, or hear them getting thrown abuse at them - and throwing abuse at a chairman who clearly doesn't care, and isn't there anyway is not going to perk them up much, either.

The only thing our team has left is us. Know is not the time to let them down, but time to support them more than ever. That's my view anyway.
That's the trick isn't it: to still support the team passionately but to still somehow register your extreme disapproval of how the club is being run.

I agree though.  I keep saying that we have to give ourselves the best possible chance to stay up and giving certain players the dog's abuse isn't a part of that.  I don't see how we could hammer Lerner and Faulkner for not doing all they can if we the supporters aren't also doing all we can.

I agree completely that we need to still back the team BUT us doing nothing at all is mirroring the clubs behaviour. I would never protest in the ground unless every alternative had been exhausted but we defientely need a way to show Lerner/Faulkner that this isnt acceptable.

[pauliewalnuts]

I agree completely that we need to still back the team BUT us doing nothing at all is mirroring the clubs behaviour. I would never protest in the ground unless every alternative had been exhausted but we defientely need a way to show Lerner/Faulkner that this isnt acceptable.

So, what is that way? There hasn't been a single suggestion that doesn't involve not backing the club in some way.

I'd guess the obvious way is to not renew your ST in the summer, which is what I imagine a lot of people do.

In the meantime, get behind them.

[stubbsyandy]

With you on this one Paulie

[MonsXI]

I agree completely that we need to still back the team BUT us doing nothing at all is mirroring the clubs behaviour. I would never protest in the ground unless every alternative had been exhausted but we defientely need a way to show Lerner/Faulkner that this isnt acceptable.

So, what is that way? There hasn't been a single suggestion that doesn't involve not backing the club in some way.

I'd guess the obvious way is to not renew your ST in the summer, which is what I imagine a lot of people do.

In the meantime, get behind them.

Thats the $64million question

[Rip Van We Go Again]

If we go down, we'll get behind them and carry on supporting them as ever.

We support the club and have an unbreakable bond with it.

It's the fucking imbeciles we have in charge that we have an objection to.

[Apyadg]

So, what is that way? There hasn't been a single suggestion that doesn't involve not backing the club in some way.

I'd guess the obvious way is to not renew your ST in the summer, which is what I imagine a lot of people do.

In the meantime, get behind them.

The thing is, just staying away from VP doesn't really tell the club much. Are people staying away because of Lerner, Lambert, ticket prices, just due to results, style of football, the temperature of the pies?

[levico]

People are kidding themselves if we think Villa are gonna take the championship by storm once the youngsters develop under Lambchop. The likes of Westwood and Benteke won't be here - they'll be cherry picked in the summer and replaced by journeymen championship players in the hope we can get up on the cheap. We couldn't keep our best players when we were finishing 6th so there's no chance in the championship.

Exactly. It's like Lerner has thrown a TV out of a hotel window, it doesn't stop falling until its hit the floor - wherever that is. League 1, 2 or worse?