What can we do about it?

[paulcomben]

Next week against Newcastle.

Not ONE person buys a burger/pie/programme/drink inside the ground. Not one person buys anything from the club shop. The only way Lerner will take note is if it is in his pocket. If he can't be arsed to spend money, then neither should we. 

A) why would anyone buy any of that shit anyway and b) those poor learning difficulty serving folk make it impossible to get anyway.

[Witton Warrior]

Next week against Newcastle.

Not ONE person buys a burger/pie/programme/drink inside the ground. Not one person buys anything from the club shop. The only way Lerner will take note is if it is in his pocket. If he can't be arsed to spend money, then neither should we. 

A) why would anyone buy any of that shit anyway and b) those poor learning difficulty serving folk make it impossible to get anyway.

Do me a favour and lay off the learning difficulty references - come and meet my lad who has them (and autism) and is a friendly, helpful and loyal Villan in  the Upper Trinity A2; he may complain if you swear though ;-)

[Zakk Fatt]

Just as I thought we ahve as much direction as the team as supporters, none.

Nothing will change.  We are down.

[Billy Walker]

No, No, No, Lambert has to stay, we have to back him fully and trust that he can get us out of the Championship at the first try.  Make no mistake we are relegated. Period.

What I think we have to ask ourselves now is how are we planning to react to this impending relegation?

Go down quietly or voice our opinion as one loud united voice.

Looking on here we share a few things such as: the team aren't good enough, the tactics are crazy, the ambition has gone, the owner is absent, we haven't got any money left, the club appears to have no football strategy.

But we disagree on who's fault it is, I see posts about Lerner being tight, Lerner being generous, Lerner being dissinterested, Managers squandering his cash, directors of football, Faulkener being a clown, Wage pressure, Profit and Loss needing to be managed, posts pleading to spend, spend, spend.

I think whilst we continue to disagree on what the main fundamental problem(s) is/are and what exactly we need to effect a change in them then Supporter Protest/Pressure is doomed to failure.

I think we need to adopt West Bromwich Albion's model of a Director of Football so we can sack managers at will and not feel thier loss for a start but it is just my opinion.

I think Lerner should spend lots of money with no view to ever getting it back on securing some hardened players by next Thursday that MIGHT give us a fighting chance of staying up but this is just my opinion (and a bit of a pipe dream).

I think Lerner should sell the club to someone who cares about the football club as much as we do.

But these are just opinions and until we galvanise our opinions and start a cohesive movement based on our main objectives as supporters then whatever we do can be brushed off as 'just the fans'.

Anyone want to present a manifesto for perusal with the top objectives that we can debate and whittle down to one ot two must happen nows that we can all get behind?

Once we all agree to stick together as one through thick and thin on a couple of fundamental issues then and only then will be listened too.

When we turned on McLeish (all of us together) then he was gone in weeks.  We can do whatever we want but only if thousands of us are completely united and unwavering.  I don't think we can do it but if we can then I'm in 100%.

I agree with everything you say except the bit where you say we are relegated.  We've got to scrap it out and do all we can to stay up, throwing in the towel now is not an option. 

[Risso]

I agree with everything you say except the bit where you say we are relegated.  We've got to scrap it out and do all we can to stay up, throwing in the towel now is not an option. 

The towel was thrown in a long time ago.  Firstly by our useless, playboy of an owner, and more recently by our useless manager and spineless players.

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Lots of people dismissing my suggestion of boycotting everything they sell in the ground and out on the matchday, but not one person has given an alternative suggestion...

... let's just whine about it on here then, and whinge when we're relegated that we never did anything.

[Pat McMahon]

Do me a favour and lay off the learning difficulty references - come and meet my lad who has them (and autism) and is a friendly, helpful and loyal Villan in  the Upper Trinity A2; he may complain if you swear though ;-)
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WW, good job he was not within earshot of me last night. Another dose of 90 minute Tourette's ......

[tomd2103]

Lots of people dismissing my suggestion of boycotting everything they sell in the ground and out on the matchday, but not one person has given an alternative suggestion...

... let's just whine about it on here then, and whinge when we're relegated that we never did anything.

Didn't someone suggest an open letter in one of the national newspapers?  I agree that is a much better way of airing displeasure than doing somethig that is going to have a negative impact on the club.   

[pooligan]

Us supporters have and only ever have had one way of protesting that actually makes any difference and that is to stay away. I have been going since 1963 until two seasons ago and have decided i wont set foot inside VP  again until we are rid of Learner. It hurts missing games but someone tell me any other way to make a worthwhile protest

[bertlambshank]

Us supporters have and only ever have had one way of protesting that actually makes any difference and that is to stay away. I have been going since 1963 until two seasons ago and have decided i wont set foot inside VP  again until we are rid of Learner. It hurts missing games but someone tell me any other way to make a worthwhile protest

Get a bedsheet and paint WANKER on it.

[German James]

Us supporters have and only ever have had one way of protesting that actually makes any difference and that is to stay away. I have been going since 1963 until two seasons ago and have decided i wont set foot inside VP  again until we are rid of Learner. It hurts missing games but someone tell me any other way to make a worthwhile protest

Get a bedsheet and paint WANKER on it.

You mean

WaNke-
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[itbrvilla]

Saw an idea about waving white flags at Necastle.  Would be quite a site.  Surely it would get a message to the board even if they then decide not to do anything.

[PaulWinch again]

Problem is the club have the fans by the balls. The only way to really effect anything is not to turn up at the games, but they're aware the fans know that'll damage the club in the long run.

[not3bad]

Saw an idea about waving white flags at Necastle.  Would be quite a site.  Surely it would get a message to the board even if they then decide not to do anything.

Good idea this, especially after the free gift against Bradford.

[achilles]

Saw an idea about waving white flags at Necastle.  Would be quite a site.  Surely it would get a message to the board even if they then decide not to do anything.

Good idea this, especially after the free gift against Bradford.

I think this would be an excellent idea, it would certainly get the media attention that we need to see the mess the club are in at the moment.