West Bromwich Albion v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Mortimer's Bear]

Albion were always gonna come out second half and have most of the posession, even second half we had some good moments so for fucks sake lets not be quite so quick to slate them.

It's a decent away point.

[villan from luton]

You can blame Randy Lerner all you want, but he doesn't set  the team up to defend a 2-0 lead for 45 minutes. He wasn't in the dressing room to motivate and inject desire into them. He wasn't the one who could spot our shortcomings and correct them. He wasn't the one that made a couple of the oddest substitutions I've seen.


We are a soft, soft touch. And we will be relegated if nothing is done to correct that. It doesn't matter if we sign Messi, Sneijder or Yaya Bastard Toure. 

I wanted Lambert as manager this summer. I thought he'd be exactly what we needed. I'm sorry to say I've changed my mind, now I see him as Roberto Martinez-lite.

If I was Lerner, as far as I was concerned, Paul Lambert has one game to save his job.

The first two subs were from injuries so how you can make that comment is strange, agree N Zog should not have gone off

[Dribbler]

People in forums are so fickle. Zog has been shit for us for nearly 2 seasons, he has 1 good game and people cry when he leaves the pitch and question the manager. A manager who over the last 2 years of his career has been nothing short of great.

Fickle? As you rightly say, he's been pretty poor for nearly 2 seasons, so when he's having what is agruably one of his best games for the club, having had 2 assists and nearly created several other goals, we take him off. I wonder what Lambert said to him when he came off? "Well Charles, mumble, mumble, i took you off even though you were playing well in this game, because, mumble mumble, you've played pretty badly over the last 2 seasons and that's a good reason to substitute you in this game."

[AvFc4eVeR]

Lambert either needs to get forwards finishing chances

Or

He needs to teach defenders how to deal with set pieces

Either of those would have won us the game, it really isn't rocket science.

[MonsXI]

Fuck settling for a point, we SHOULD have WON this game.

Positives

• Gabby back to his best
• THAT goal
• We appear to be seeing an in form Charles N'Zogbia for the first time in his Villa career
• The improved 1st half display - Confident, exciting, technically very good
• Bennett - Thought he played ok today. Made a couple of saving tackles, put some good crosses in. Just needs a bit of confidence which he should get playing alongside Ron

Negatives

• The lack of tactical nouse by Mr Lambert
• The introduction of Barry 'Hollywood' Bannan - Lacking in EVERY possible dept
• The introduction of Holman - Doing his best to impersonate one of the chickens from Chicken Run, running around the pitch, arms flailing everywhere
• Eric Lichaj - Bench at best - SHould not have come on as replacement for Baker
• Injury to Baker, who I think is our next best defender to Ron

...but, we pick ourselves up, we go again. Now I know how Bill fucking Murray feels! 'Sigh'

 

Bit harsh on Lichaj.

agreed.
Left on the coach,rather than the bench.

A fine example and typical idiotic comment. Why people feel the need to spout bollocks like this I have no idea. Lichaj had a good game today. surrounded by better players with more confidence Lichaj will be a good player for us. Yes, he has had a few bad games for us but crap like this after he has a decent game is infuriating

I agree, he's never going to be a world beater but his an honest fucker and will always give 100%. If only he put that chance away!

[Monty]

The problem in the second half was tactical, for me. We gave them so much time, space and ball in the final third. I know all the theories behind what the formation is meant to be and what it's meant to do, but it ends up as 5-2-1-2, and against their 4-2-3-1 it basically ended up as 2 against 5 in their favour. It meant every clearance the defence made was essentially futile, as the ball fell to the feet of their midfielders.

First half, tactics didn't matter too much as the players just looked so up for it and just so much better than recent weeks. However, the ingredients of failure were there, and Lambert didn't appear to see it. It was obvious what the problem was, and he did nothing about it. For different reasons we have surrendered leads late on away at Swansea and now Baggies. Give us four extra points and we'd be feeling much happier - as it is, we still look in desperate trouble.

[Rancid custard]

At the start of the day if you'd have offered me a draw I would've taken it, but knowing that that draw came from a 2 nil lead makes my piss boil a bit more than it should've.

[john2710]

Lambert is tactically as thick as McLeish.

So assuming N'Zogbia, Delph had knocks & Baker was injured who could have come on to replace them? Possibly Ireland instead of N'Zogbia but  who else?

Bannan, Holman & Lichaj are not good enough, we all know that.

Don't forget Albion improved after half time, closed us down quicker and constantly went dirrect to Lukaku. But we didn't keep the ball during the 2nd half.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Nothing wrong with our strike force, but it's hopeless if we have to expect them to score three goals a game to get 3 points.
What the fuck do they work on at Bodymoor Heath.

The defence may be green, but they continually make the most basic of errors.

[DB]

Problem 2nd half when they went fir it was a lack of leader in the midfield...please get one!

[bertlambshank]

Why do we ask our best forward to keep defending their best player at a corner.
He is just a kid for fucks sake.

[damon loves JT]

Ah well, it was a good game, and the good first half just about overshadowed the bad second, and we've moved out of the bottom three. 

I agree with Risso.

[saunders_heroes]

People in forums are so fickle. Zog has been shit for us for nearly 2 seasons, he has 1 good game and people cry when he leaves the pitch and question the manager. A manager who over the last 2 years of his career has been nothing short of great.

Barry Bannan is even worse but that doesn't stop him and others from getting a game nearly every week.
N'Zogbia can win games for us. Get him in the team and keep him there. Same with Gabby. It's experience we need, not lightweight youngsters who'll never be good enough.

[PeterWithesShin]

We've scored twice in our last 2 away games. Led in both going into the last 10 minutes. To not win at least one of them is poor.

[Monty]

A big problem was Delph going off. Bannan is not a defensive midfielder at the best of times, and certainly not in a two against five situation!