What's actually wrong with our team?

[saunders_heroes]

These kids try their best but no matter how much they give, they're never going to be good enough. They are NOT Premier League standard players, and that's why we're in the relegation zone.
Lerner's deranged plan of selling your best players and replacing them with cheap players from the lower leagues and abroad is absolute madness. It's suicide for a Premier League football team.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Lerner's deranged plan of selling your best players and replacing them with cheap players from the lower leagues and abroad is absolute madness. It's suicide for a Premier League football team.

You'd think Lambert would have a word and tell Lerner that he wants to buy his own players and won't work with a chairman that chooses who to buy and sell, not to mention picks the team.

[LeeB]

Lerner's deranged plan of selling your best players and replacing them with cheap players from the lower leagues and abroad is absolute madness. It's suicide for a Premier League football team.

You'd think Lambert would have a word and tell Lerner that he wants to buy his own players and won't work with a chairman that chooses who to buy and sell, not to mention picks the team.

It's a conspiracy, I tells ya.

[old man villa fan]

Composure, lack of.

[old man villa fan]

Lerner's deranged plan of selling your best players and replacing them with cheap players from the lower leagues and abroad is absolute madness. It's suicide for a Premier League football team.

How many British players actually come through the ranks at the PL clubs above, say, 7th position.  There are very few.  Look at Spurs now, both fullbacks brought in from a lower league club.  The difference is that they have slowly been integrated into the side after periods out on loan, rather than being thrown straight in at the deep end.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Lerner's deranged plan of selling your best players and replacing them with cheap players from the lower leagues and abroad is absolute madness. It's suicide for a Premier League football team.

You'd think Lambert would have a word and tell Lerner that he wants to buy his own players and won't work with a chairman that chooses who to buy and sell, not to mention picks the team.

It's a conspiracy, I tells ya.

You can lead a horse to water..

[saunders_heroes]

Lerner's deranged plan of selling your best players and replacing them with cheap players from the lower leagues and abroad is absolute madness. It's suicide for a Premier League football team.

You'd think Lambert would have a word and tell Lerner that he wants to buy his own players and won't work with a chairman that chooses who to buy and sell, not to mention picks the team.

Most of the big earners of the last 5 or so years are now off the books. The remaining ones are either out of the team or out of favour and looking to be shipped out. The replacements are relatively low earners. It doesn't take a genius to work out where Lerner is taking the club, but if you think it's all Lambert's idea then good luck to you.

[PaulWinch again]

Ciaran Clark - 'Our luck will turn if we keep showing fighting spirit.' Two things wrong with that Ciaran, it's not bad luck that has us down where we are, it's playing abysmally badly most of the time. Also I've seen barely any fighting spirit from the side, in fact I've never seen a side surrender like ours on several occasions.

So in short that's bollocks Clark and if you truly believe that's the problem we're fucked.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Lerner's deranged plan of selling your best players and replacing them with cheap players from the lower leagues and abroad is absolute madness. It's suicide for a Premier League football team.

You'd think Lambert would have a word and tell Lerner that he wants to buy his own players and won't work with a chairman that chooses who to buy and sell, not to mention picks the team.

Most of the big earners of the last 5 or so years are now off the books. The remaining ones are either out of the team or out of favour and looking to be shipped out. The replacements are relatively low earners. It doesn't take a genius to work out where Lerner is taking the club, but if you think it's all Lambert's idea then good luck to you.

So it's not Lambert's idea not to play Given, Hutton, Dunne, Warnock, Ireland and Bent? He's really nasty, that Mr Lerner.

[Legion]

It's Pravda's media spin, not Ciaran spouting that bullshit. They take it in turns to attribute quotes from our players.

[saunders_heroes]

Lerner's deranged plan of selling your best players and replacing them with cheap players from the lower leagues and abroad is absolute madness. It's suicide for a Premier League football team.

You'd think Lambert would have a word and tell Lerner that he wants to buy his own players and won't work with a chairman that chooses who to buy and sell, not to mention picks the team.

Most of the big earners of the last 5 or so years are now off the books. The remaining ones are either out of the team or out of favour and looking to be shipped out. The replacements are relatively low earners. It doesn't take a genius to work out where Lerner is taking the club, but if you think it's all Lambert's idea then good luck to you.

So it's not Lambert's idea not to play Given, Hutton, Dunne, Warnock, Ireland and Bent? He's really nasty, that Mr Lerner.

As I said, good luck to you.

[saunders_heroes]

It's Pravda's media spin, not Ciaran spouting that bullshit. They take it in turns to attribute quotes from our players.

I wonder if there's fans out there that read the guff spouted by Villa and are taken in by it?

[PaulWinch again]

Fair enough, but it's absolutely shocking.

[paul_e]

These kids try their best but no matter how much they give, they're never going to be good enough. They are NOT Premier League standard players, and that's why we're in the relegation zone.
Lerner's deranged plan of selling your best players and replacing them with cheap players from the lower leagues and abroad is absolute madness. It's suicide for a Premier League football team.

I seem to be seeing a post from you in every thread saying the same thing, specifically pretty much the entire squad is shit and it's all Lerner's fault.

It's not all Lerner's fault, he takes an element of blame but you don't get into the problems we've got purely by the owner deciding he doesn't want to pay our running costs out of his own pocket. 

Lambert has been naive at times.
The senior players have not earned their money.
The kids have had their confidence destroyed and their game has deserted them because of it.
We don't have a leader on the pitch with Vlaar out.
We've had a stinker of an injury crisis, not total numbers so much, but that it was all forwards and central defenders.
We've bounced from manager to manager all with different ideas on how to play (this is lerner's fault).
We've replaced good players who left with overpaid players who on paper were suitable but in practice have been a huge backwards step.

[E I Adio]

These kids try their best but no matter how much they give, they're never going to be good enough. They are NOT Premier League standard players, and that's why we're in the relegation zone.
Lerner's deranged plan of selling your best players and replacing them with cheap players from the lower leagues and abroad is absolute madness. It's suicide for a Premier League football team.

I seem to be seeing a post from you in every thread saying the same thing, specifically pretty much the entire squad is shit and it's all Lerner's fault.

It's not all Lerner's fault, he takes an element of blame but you don't get into the problems we've got purely by the owner deciding he doesn't want to pay our running costs out of his own pocket. 

Lambert has been naive at times.
The senior players have not earned their money.
The kids have had their confidence destroyed and their game has deserted them because of it.
We don't have a leader on the pitch with Vlaar out.
We've had a stinker of an injury crisis, not total numbers so much, but that it was all forwards and central defenders.
We've bounced from manager to manager all with different ideas on how to play (this is lerner's fault).
We've replaced good players who left with overpaid players who on paper were suitable but in practice have been a huge backwards step.

Come on now.

This is no time for sensible posts.