Doug or Randy?

[eastie]

Do you want a man in charge who invented the bicycle kick or the cloaking device ?

Damn , you made me spill my lager !

Lager at this time of day?  I know things are bad (they're actually bloody shite) but get a grip man.

I find it helps take away the pain.
Was teetotal till the Chelsea game

[TopDeck113]

Since when has being European champions been "the point of oblivion"?

I was referring to when he first walked in through the door in 1968

[wolfman999]

 

What a choice. The chair or lethal injection?

Great stuff.

Go on dc5 you know you loved the drama of doug 'keeping his powder dry'

At Doug's age, you'd be grateful to keep anything dry

[dave.woodhall]

Since when has being European champions been "the point of oblivion"?

I was referring to when he first walked in through the door in 1968

When he didn't take over.

[Dave Clark Five]

He's behind you.

[TopDeck113]

All right, became chairman for the first time.

[dave.woodhall]

As part of a consortium, financed by Pat Matthews and supporters. We also got relegated the year after.

[pestria]

HDE has a myriad of faults that are well known to all here.  In his favour he made a contribution to the resurgence from the nadir of 3rd division football and under his direct control we competed from time to time with the very best and won trophies.

RAL has a myriad of faults.  Unfortunately he has failed to match Doug's best period and is likely to match the worst.

Doug in his pomp was miles better.  Senile Doug and the current RAL - probably a tie - which if nothing else shoul tell you how shote Lerner is.

[Greg N'Ash]

What a choice. The chair or lethal injection?

Great stuff.

Go on dc5 you know you loved the drama of doug 'keeping his powder dry'

At Doug's age, you'd be grateful to keep anything dry

ah dear! Proper laughed at that.....

[cdward]

All Football chairmen are hoping to find the next Alex Ferguson, or Arsene Wenger and get success on the cheap, Ellis never succeeded and neither has Lerner. They have both had periods of investment and periods of non investment.  We were relegated under Ellis, and it is looking increasingly likely it will happen again.
Ellis would have sacked Lambert and looked again for his new Alex Ferguson, Lerner appears either more patient or distant. 
Success on the pitch comes from the manager with support from chairman, usually a manager needs lots of money Man city/chelsea or time Moyes/wenger. We dont have pots of money, so i reckon Lerner is hoping it comes good eventually.
Lerner for me

[TopDeck113]

Dave, I know the history.  And the point remains that Ellis originally came into a club that was in seemingly terminal decline - and left it (the second time) as one of a handful of permanent fixtures in the Premier League.  There was some very good seasons during his tenure - and a few best forgotten - but generally the club reached and maintained a level that it has "enjoyed" for most of the last 100 years.  So whilst many of the criticisms levelled at him are, for the most part, probably justified, he didn't really sell us short in running a club that a supporter of the 1920s or 1950s would recognise: i.e. a club that was in the top flight and on an occasional basis challenging for an honour.

[Greg N'Ash]

Haven't voted for either of them. It's like politics in this country - a choice of shit and shit. I have no time for Doug but he would have acted or made a statement to the press. Thats what he did for good or bad - he sacked managers or forced them out when no-one was really calling for them to be sacked or stuck by unpopular managers and was seen to be behind them. Lerner, well take away the money and i'm struggling for any positives. The club seems to just drift on a sea of Inertia and has done since pubehead walked out. Anyone expecting a press release this week backing the manager or the opposite? Nope neither am i.

[Dave Clark Five]

At least when Doug gave the vote of confidence you knew what was coming.

[adrenachrome]

Tweedledumb or Tweedledumber.

Just say no, kids.

[Mortimer's Bear]

At least Ellis looked like he cared for the club. The prat we've got now couldn't give two shites.

This for me.

For all Dougs faults (of which there were many), I honestly believe he always cared about the club to a degree. I feel like Lerner couldn't give two shits to be honest.