Doug or Randy?

[Monty]

What a choice. The chair or lethal injection?

[Dave Clark Five]

What a choice. The chair or lethal injection?

Great stuff.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Ellis - Lethal injection

Blandy - The chair

At least the injection is quick and painless.

[eastie]

The failure to sign Keane had nothing to do with Ellis, It was Gregory who didn't think he was good enough for the fee required.
I also think Gregory's thinking might have been influenced by Siralex's comments saying that he would only 'pay about £500,000 for a player like that.'

That's true , Gregory was after two players one of whom was Keane and when he spoke to Ellis saying he ewasnt sure which to go for , doug replied "why not get both?"

Gregory said on watching Keane again that another reason he decided  against him when wolves fans were coming up  saying ' you've got to sign him '- which he found very strange.

[Monty]

Ellis - Lethal injection

Blandy - The chair

At least the injection is quick and painless.

To be fair, Ellis is more like being put down over a long period of time, whereas Lerner is someone with a blunt axe trying to hit a tree and constantly getting you instead.

[eastie]

What a choice. The chair or lethal injection?

Great stuff.

Go on dc5 you know you loved the drama of doug 'keeping his powder dry'

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Gregory said on watching Keane again that another reason he decided  against him when wolves fans were coming up  saying ' you've got to sign him '- which he found very strange.

According to Gregory, he watched him against Man City (he scored the winner in a 1-0 victory) but thought his overall play 'was nothing special.'

A bit of an idiotic opinion as he was on his own upfront for that game.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Ellis - Lethal injection

Blandy - The chair

At least the injection is quick and painless.

whereas Lerner is someone with a blunt axe trying to hit a tree and constantly getting you instead.

Whilst Lerner shouts out 'Laavverly, Laavverly' over and over again like Barry Morse in the Hitchcock 'Frenzy' film.

[saunders_heroes]

I'm not buying the revisionist 'Uncle Doug' crap. He was dreadful and Lerner is not doing any better. One thing I will say is at least Doug's mega ego meant he was always around, rather than our current peculiar reclusive absent owner.

From the early 90s to about 96/7, I was as proud to be a Villa fan as I've ever been.  Consistently good managers, great players, excellent football, nearly always around the top of the table and two trophies.  The current set up is a disgrace, and Lerner a c*** of the first water.

Nice comparison, neatly using the best of Ellis's time, the worst of Randy's and ignoring a couple of relegation battles.

Selective indeed.
Lets not forget also all the money The old c**t put into the club...

As opposed to the money Lerner has loaned to the club?

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Do you want a man in charge who invented the bicycle kick or the cloaking device ?

[supertom]

Victor Meldrew or Mr Magoo?

I'll vote for Victor. At least Doug knew what he was doing (for better or worse). He loves the club too.
Randy's just a bit clueless really. I don't see him as the criminal mastermind, maniacally laughing as he takes us into oblivion. I just think he's Frank Spencer with money and he's at our club.

[eastie]

Do you want a man in charge who invented the bicycle kick or the cloaking device ?

Damn , you made me spill my lager !

[TopDeck113]

God knows the charge sheet against Doug was long enough, but as I - and others - have said before, at least he knew football world inside out and, more to the point, everyone knew who he was. He knew whose hand to shake and everyone would take his call.  Plus, as a master of bull-shit himself, he could spot it a mile off.  I can't imagine Doug being impressed by a letter from Sir Alex, when all the necessary evidence to the contrary was sitting a few of miles away.

Doug made mistakes.  Some very big ones.  His treatment of Tony Barton was disgraceful and the razing to the ground of the Trinity Road stand was sacrilege. However, he also took the club from the brink of oblivion to a mainstay of the top division, with a few Wembley appearances along the way.  For the most part, the journey under Doug - certainly up until about 2000 - had more ups than downs.  And more to the point, the downs were very quickly followed by an up.

Lerner, on the other hand, seems clueless to the workings of English football, is an absentee landlord who has appointed a management team who seem incapable of even the fundamentals, and has set the club on a trajectory that I increasingly fear means one relegation is the least of our worries.   

[villajk]

Do you want a man in charge who invented the bicycle kick or the cloaking device ?

Damn , you made me spill my lager !

Lager at this time of day?  I know things are bad (they're actually bloody shite) but get a grip man.

[dave.woodhall]

God knows the charge sheet against Doug was long enough, but as I - and others - have said before, at least he knew football world inside out and, more to the point, everyone knew who he was. He knew whose hand to shake and everyone would take his call.  Plus, as a master of bull-shit himself, he could spot it a mile off.  I can't imagine Doug being impressed by a letter from Sir Alex, when all the necessary evidence to the contrary was sitting a few of miles away.

Doug made mistakes.  Some very big ones.  His treatment of Tony Barton was disgraceful and the razing to the ground of the Trinity Road stand was sacrilege. However, he also took the club from the brink of oblivion to a mainstay of the top division, with a few Wembley appearances along the way.  For the most part, the journey under Doug - certainly up until about 2000 - had more ups than downs.  And more to the point, the downs were very quickly followed by an up.

Lerner, on the other hand, seems clueless to the workings of English football, is an absentee landlord who has appointed a management team who seem incapable of even the fundamentals, and has set the club on a trajectory that I increasingly fear means one relegation is the least of our worries.   

Since when has being European champions been "the point of oblivion"?