Badly run clubs eventually get relegated

[bertlambshank]

When I questioned what PFs remit was, I intended to explore whether the Manager makes all footballing decisions. What footballing decisions do we think PF makes, apart from being the fall guy in respect of managerial appointments and sackings? Lerner tells us nothing. They could have all manner of people advising them.

Nobody knows,but at the Brown's the GM ran everything.I see PF in that role for us.

[pauliewalnuts]

When I questioned what PFs remit was, I intended to explore whether the Manager makes all footballing decisions. What footballing decisions do we think PF makes, apart from being the fall guy in respect of managerial appointments and sackings? Lerner tells us nothing. They could have all manner of people advising them.

I'd imagine that PF has a very large role in deciding the financial framework within which the manager works.

If he's not involved in that, what exactly is he doing? I'm pretty sure he's not limited to booking wedding parties and balti and chips events with former players.

Although the presence of that rat faced ****** Hodge today suggests he might be.

[Yossarian]

Tonight as I sit here typing this I imagine RL at home scared of the germs, counting his money, watching planes on his home cinema. His PA cutting his toe nails and arranging visiting time for his kids. Ever the practical that PA. As I go to bed, five hours behind, RL grabs his Aston Villa subuteo models and sets them up for a giant war against Godzilla and ManBearPig. His Benteke, KEA and Clarke models are wiped out but the Bent model stamps on the head of Godzilla and saves humanity. His PA is scurrying around, filling in forms with one hand, typing emails with another, whilst on the phone to Faulkner telling him Randy is locked in an important board meeting and can't take his call. His PA, desperate to get home to his Malibu Stacy figurines, explains down the line in a very patient manner that Randy can't sanction the purchase of another player.

[Phil from the upper holte]

You're saying what I've been saying but better lol. We cannot just keep changing managers the change has to come from the top

[bertlambshank]

When I questioned what PFs remit was, I intended to explore whether the Manager makes all footballing decisions. What footballing decisions do we think PF makes, apart from being the fall guy in respect of managerial appointments and sackings? Lerner tells us nothing. They could have all manner of people advising them.

I'd imagine that PF has a very large role in deciding the financial framework within which the manager works.

If he's not involved in that, what exactly is he doing? I'm pretty sure he's not limited to booking wedding parties and balti and chips events with former players.

Although the presence of that rat faced c*** Hodge today suggests he might be.

With PF bigging up the reserves it's PF way.Why else would he say it.

[Pete3206]

How I pine for the days when The General was under fire for crap pies, lack of TV screens and dodgy intro music.

[TheSandman]

When I questioned what PFs remit was, I intended to explore whether the Manager makes all footballing decisions. What footballing decisions do we think PF makes, apart from being the fall guy in respect of managerial appointments and sackings? Lerner tells us nothing. They could have all manner of people advising them.

Nobody knows,but at the Brown's the GM ran everything.I see PF in that role for us.

My understanding has always been of Faulkner as Lerner's yes man diligently serving his master put in place after Pubey saw off the previous two Chief Execs. However, a couple of days back someone on here made a comment similar to what you say there that Lerner said in an interview that he leaves the day to day business to 'football people'. This leads me to ponder the unponderable. Just why does Lerner consider a former relationship manager from his credit card company to be a 'football person'? Did he once engage him in conversation about 'soccer' in the office once or something like that?

[TheSandman]

How I pine for the days when The General was under fire for crap pies, lack of TV screens and dodgy intro music.

But the pies are now great and we have our screen back! The problem is that everything else has fallen to shit.

[tomd2103]

Why didn't we keep McAllister in charge after Houllier left - McAllister guided us to that end to the season with wins at Arse and home to Liverpool - I reckon he would have done a decent job.  There are several key moments as to where the shitness was accelerated - firstly MON timing, then Houllier getting ill, then letting McAllister go in favour of McLeish - McLeish ffs. MCLEISH!

Actually while I am thinking about it - why can't we go and get McAllister back.

Because McAllister's record at every club is very poor and was not liked for his coaching and man management by the players,eg Dunne,Collins and Agbonlahor,the latter being very difficult to upset but McAllister managed to.

I wonder why he upset those players though C&B?  Maybe he had the temerity to point out that they weren't exactly pulling their weight and earning the very hefty sums of money they were being paid by the club.  Maybe some of the more senior players had it cushy at the club and didn't like being told that they had to work harder and put some extra effort in.

I wasn't a fan of Houllier and Gary Mac, but after witnessing what has followed, they probably should have been given more time even if it meant Houllier taking up a more advisory role.  I am certain that they would have cleared away a lot of the wasters who have been nothing short of liabilities over the past two seasons and are a big reason why we are in such a mess now.

[saunders_heroes]

How I pine for the days when The General was under fire for crap pies, lack of TV screens and dodgy intro music.

But the pies are now great and we have our screen back! The problem is that everything else has fallen to shit.

Well we got half of the old screen back. God knows what happened to the other half.
Bloody cutbacks! ;-)

[David_Nab]

It doesn't help that Randy owns the club fully ,no other share holders to really answer too.

[Doorbell]

Tonight as I sit here typing this I imagine RL at home scared of the germs, counting his money, watching planes on his home cinema. His PA cutting his toe nails and arranging visiting time for his kids. Ever the practical that PA. As I go to bed, five hours behind, RL grabs his Aston Villa subuteo models and sets them up for a giant war against Godzilla and ManBearPig. His Benteke, KEA and Clarke models are wiped out but the Bent model stamps on the head of Godzilla and saves humanity. His PA is scurrying around, filling in forms with one hand, typing emails with another, whilst on the phone to Faulkner telling him Randy is locked in an important board meeting and can't take his call. His PA, desperate to get home to his Malibu Stacy figurines, explains down the line in a very patient manner that Randy can't sanction the purchase of another player.

Brilliant...

[preston28]

so when do you think the fans will turn against Mr. Lerner? We have been very patient thus so far but I feel the groundswell of opinion is slowly turning against him.
Next home game, the one after or wait until we are relegated at the end of e season?

[eastie]

The club is a mess and blame lies with Lerner, Faulkner, lambert, and going back further Mcleish, houllier, o Neill- we are in a really poor state, spent a fortune and left with a threadbare squad of young players , and overpaid under performers , a shocking example of how so much money can be spent in 5 years to end up with such a very poor team.

[LeeB]

Even if we escape relegation this year, with Randy's grip on the purse strings, does anyone really believe that it we wont be battling relegation again next year? Its been like this for 3 seasons now, I'm getting tired of it, and if you take out the MON era, its been like it since midway through Gregory's reign as manager, give or take a season.

That is the truth.

Maybe gates of 30,000ish and comparatively cheap tickets compared to clubs we'd consider a our rivals, isn't enough to compete anymore.