Aston Villa v Southampton Post-Match Thread

[timeoutbigbar]

Yes 4-2-4 doesn't work or supply chances.

4-2-4 was the formation I had on Fifa 96! Worked a treat for me. Mark Overmars on the right cutting in on his left foot!

You just have to laugh it's that bad!

Chasing the game in a 'relegation 6 pointer' what else can you really do.  If he brings on another midfielder he'd probably be slated for not going for it.  Ireland isn't exactly the sort of player to be up for the battle when you're a goal down.

[PaulWinch again]

Problem is we've tried 4-2-4 a few times, and it doesn't work.

[kippaxvilla2]

We pick ourselves up right about now and go again brother, right about now, we pick ourselves up right about now, we pick ourselves up and go again, pickpickpickpickpickpick right about now we pick ourselves up and go again, right about now, we pick ourselves up and go again go again go again gain gain gain. The funk so Villa, right about now

[bertlambshank]

We pick ourselves up right about now and go again brother, right about now, we pick ourselves up right about now, we pick ourselves up and go again, pickpickpickpickpickpick right about now we pick ourselves up and go again, right about now, we pick ourselves up and go again go again go again gain gain gain. The funk so Villa, right about now

Release that,I would buy it.

[claretandbeer]

Yes 4-2-4 doesn't work or supply chances.

Didn't play 424,played 4-2-3-1 in the first half,then in the 2nd became 424. First half a shambles,Stevens and Holman especially woeful,but above all a total lack of confidence,not helped by the ref,even Lowton and Westwood looked very poor.
2nd half better than Soton ,Westwood and Delph (MOTM) looked good in midfield but very much a team that reeks of relegation despite some neat work.

[PaulWinch again]

I know it became 4-2-4 in the second half, but that's our shift when things go against us and it doesn't work.

[claretandbeer]

The problem is where you play Weimann who deserves a place in the team. Do you drop Benteke /Bent ? Weimann is not skilful enough to play wide. 2 strikers seems reasonable, 352, if we had 3 fit central defenders and eases the weakness of LB position.

[5ft811st2 Durham]

The problem is where you play Weimann who deserves a place in the team. Do you drop Benteke /Bent ? Weimann is not skilful enough to play wide. 2 strikers seems reasonable, 352, if we had 3 fit central defenders and eases the weakness of LB position.

We need to start playing Weimann central. He's our best finisher but very few of our chances fall to him given his wide starting position.

Playing him on the left today in the first half as the only extra cover for a non league standard left back was just crazy.

On that note Lambert also needs to bite the bullet and bring Warnock back.

[Risso]

Just play 4 4 fucking 2

Lowton Vlaar Baker Warnock
N'Zogbia Westwood Ireland Agbonlahor
Weimann Benteke

Stop pissing about with shit formations, get the ball out wide and some crosses whipped in.

[tomd2103]

Just play 4 4 fucking 2

Lowton Vlaar Baker Warnock
N'Zogbia Westwood Ireland Agbonlahor
Weimann Benteke

Stop pissing about with shit formations, get the ball out wide and some crosses whipped in.

Don't like the look of that midfield Riss.  If we are going to revert to that formation then we are going to have to add a couple of good wingers to the January shopping list.

[saunders_heroes]

Just play 4 4 fucking 2

Lowton Vlaar Baker Warnock
N'Zogbia Westwood Ireland Agbonlahor
Weimann Benteke

Stop pissing about with shit formations, get the ball out wide and some crosses whipped in.

That's more like it. And if Dunne ever gets fit again get him in the team. We need experience now more than ever.

[Risso]

Just play 4 4 fucking 2

Lowton Vlaar Baker Warnock
N'Zogbia Westwood Ireland Agbonlahor
Weimann Benteke

Stop pissing about with shit formations, get the ball out wide and some crosses whipped in.

Don't like the look of that midfield Riss.  If we are going to revert to that formation then we are going to have to add a couple of good wingers to the January shopping list.

I think it's the best option given what we have available. 

[brontebilly]

Westwood was incredibly disappointing today. Presence of a wet paper bag. Stevens shouldn't play at this level again. Thought Lowton was ok in the second half after a dire first half. Clark did ok I thought at least he tries to keep the ball, not physical enough but he made a lot of vital interceptions. Not sure what anyone sees in Baker. He is all last ditch tackles but lacks composure, positioning awareness and the slightest bit of ability with the ball. Vlaar needs to come back in there ASAP as we lacked any semblance of organisation at the back. Not sure what Lambert and the coaching staff work at on a daily basis, there is a complete lack of shape to the side. Benteke's lack of technical ability is starting to become obvious but in fairness he is getting himself into positions to score anyway.

[timeoutbigbar]

Just play 4 4 fucking 2

Lowton Vlaar Baker Warnock
N'Zogbia Westwood Ireland Agbonlahor
Weimann Benteke

Stop pissing about with shit formations, get the ball out wide and some crosses whipped in.

Not many successful sides play 4-4-2 these days.  I think its outdated.  The only way that could work IMHO is to replace Westwood with a proper solid holding midfielder and play a diamond.

[kt]

Can anyone explain why we dont play with any wingers/ wide men? I'm sure this is half the problem. Did Lambert do this at Norwich and if so, how is it supposed to work effectively?