Aston Villa v Southampton Post-Match Thread

[Toronto Villa]

There's always an element of bad luck when things are going shit. Just like the luck Man U have when they hit the bar and post in games having already scored 4 times. Difference being they put their chances away and create opportunity after opportunity. We don't have to be Man U, but it isn't bad luck when you don't take the few chances that come our way. As Wigan did, as Bradford did, and Southampton did today irrespective of how they got it.

[hilts_coolerking]

There's always an element of bad luck when things are going shit. Just like the luck Man U have when they hit the bar and post in games having already scored 4 times. Difference being they put their chances away and create opportunity after opportunity. We don't have to be Man U, but it isn't bad luck when you don't take the few chances that come our way. As Wigan did, as Bradford did, and Southampton did today irrespective of how they got it.

Exactly.  Bent missed a sitter at Bradford and Benteke missed another today.

[youcefhassaine]

Paul Lamber has stated on final score that we were excellent second half, Was this true as I wasen't there?

[wolfman999]

Shite, shite whereever you may be ....

[mike]

The team is poor quality. That is Lambert's fault. They don't play we'll, that is Lambert's fault. Don't know what the answer is, mind, at this point in the season.

[hilts_coolerking]

Paul Lamber has stated on final score that we were excellent second half, Was this true as I wasen't there?

We were better, and put them under quite a lot of pressure, but as paulie says you can't expect to get anything out of games if you only turn up for half of it.

[Summers]

Lambert is using what he has, unfortunately 6 or 7 players arent really all that good. Its out of the managers hand what players do in terms of making the right choices with a pass, a shot etc

McLeish did better with, essentially, the same team.

Really....Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Hutton, Cuellar, Petrov (half season), Heskey :-) etc

Still has Warnock, Dunne and Hutton.  Collins replaced with Vlaar. Heskey replaced with Benteke. Petrov was supposed to be replaced by KEA. Poor excuses.

[pauliewalnuts]

Paul Lamber has stated on final score that we were excellent second half, Was this true as I wasen't there?

No.

We were ok for the first ten mins, then piss poor, until the last 5-10 minutes when we finally started showing some urgency.

If he thinks we could have been described as "excellent" at any point in that match, then he's fucking nuts, I'm afraid.

[clash city rocker]

The worrying thing is how far we will fall. Would the championship be our level. Is there a danger we may be another Wednesday, Leeds, Forest, etc. and disappear for years.

[pbavfckuwait]

Kept away from posting all over the Christmas period but read alot, not sure what we do, but I honestly think PL is a busted flush, he is either not getting backing from Lerner, who is totally to blame for all of this as he seems to think I sold the club to him this summer told him what he has to work to, he accepted it and now we are shit and it is his fault, which on the pitch it is, he picks the team and tactics and at the moment you could have 11 strangers on the pitch that know each other better, if a Manager comes in and thinks he will not have injuries to his squad over a season he is living in cloud cuckoo land, so that assumption by PL was wrong, the squad is not deep enough, getting rid by training with the kids his other options has now bit his arse, being stubborn is ok when results are ok, if not it is stupid.
Randy has to either back him or sack him, but this is the worst Villa team I can remember since 1969 and it is only heading in one way, to the land of our departed Small Heath dwellers

[pauliewalnuts]

Lambert is using what he has, unfortunately 6 or 7 players arent really all that good. Its out of the managers hand what players do in terms of making the right choices with a pass, a shot etc

McLeish did better with, essentially, the same team.

Really....Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Hutton, Cuellar, Petrov (half season), Heskey :-) etc

Still has Warnock, Dunne and Hutton.  Collins replaced with Vlaar. Heskey replaced with Benteke. Petrov was supposed to be replaced by KEA. Poor excuses.

Dunne has been out injured for most of the season.

I wouldn't want Hutton back, as Lowton has been ok, but as much as Warnock was shit for a long time, unless he buys us a new LB, quickly, then he's going to look a bit of an idiot for leaving Warnock training with the kids all season.

[Mister E]

 

I think lambert will be gone in 48 hours at most.

And who will come in?
The history of managerial signings is not good.

Has Lambert become a bad manager in 7 months or is he working to unrealistic constraints?

[pauliewalnuts]

I think lambert will be gone in 48 hours at most.

And who will come in?
The history of managerial signings is not good.

Has Lambert become a bad manager in 7 months or is he working to unrealistic constraints?

I utterly dread to think who our clueless owner would appoint if he had to find another manager.

[hilts_coolerking]

I think lambert will be gone in 48 hours at most.

And who will come in?
The history of managerial signings is not good.

Has Lambert become a bad manager in 7 months or is he working to unrealistic constraints?

Or was he not much cop in the first place?

[neo_Villan]

What made this even worse is that Soton weren't even that good. Yes, they had some good attacks but there wasn't really much end product. Their defence were there for the taking too. I can't ever remember the last time that it was this hard to score goals and win games (especially at home). I suppose this sort of malaise started last season to be fair to Lambert. However, he has had over half a season to reverse this and hasn't. In fact, he has made us even worse! He is just Owen Coyle mark 2 IMO. Remember that he was known for good football once, but Bolton were really a hoofball team last season. Coyle had a good cup run also before being humiliated in the Semis. Sound familiar? Bolton didn't sack Coyle thinking it would come together and look what happened. We should learn from history.