Herd and Holman

[Mister E]

We need a good wide player who can challenge Weimann for a starting place.Holman is not the answer and in the centre of the park ,Delph,Nzogbia and hopefully Gardner are better options. I've been  slightly more impressed with Herd  than Clark or Baker in the centre of the defence,good in the air ,reads the play better,more determined but injury prone.However,our priority is a quality central defender ad I think that Herd will lose out .

Herd is a DMF or fullback, though, not really a CB. If Eric has gone I would keep Herd.

[UK Redsox]

Yep, with Eric gone, Herd's an ideal player to have on the bench

[Salsa Party Animal]

If Holman is not in the team, he need to work out why the manager doesn't select him and work on his game to make the manager want him back. Work rate is nothing if it is not effective use of energy and ability.

[eastie]

If Holman is not in the team, he need to work out why the manager doesn't select him and work on his game to make the manager want him back. Work rate is nothing if it is not effective use of energy and ability.

The problem is Michael i don't think he has the ability .

[SoccerHQ]

He was o.k first half of the season, early on and over xmas he had some good performances.

Garbage since xmas though, coming on and barely touching the ball in a few sub appearences.

Wouldn't shock me if he moved on to a Palace or Hull or back to Holland.

[eamonn]

He has one of the best shots in the squad but like Hitz found out (who had a superior strike), that's not enough when the rest of his game is not up to scratch.
The likes of him, Bannan, El Ahmadi and Herd...much of a muchness really. Are any worth another go? Maybe KEA, I think he has shown composure and some ability in patches. Wouldn't be upset if any of them left. I guess some will get one last chance as our squad isn't huge as it is and another midfielder, Ireland, is likely off.

[SoccerHQ]

Herd is fine as cover...RB, CH and defensive midfield. We've lost Lichaj as the squad utility player so imagine Herd will just fill that role when we get injuries.

Disappointed in KEA, thought we'd signed a gem in the early few weeks but Sylla has surpassed him from what he's shown.

Delph's improvement has signalled the end for Bannan here imo, that and Gardner hopefully staying healthy.

[ciggiesnbeer]

I hope Holman can break back into the team. he was probably MOM against Swansea and played very well early on. Not sure what happened, maybe he faded in training?

[gervilla]

I hope Holman can break back into the team. he was probably MOM against Swansea and played very well early on. Not sure what happened, maybe he faded in training?

He was MOM v Swansea and deservedly so. I think he had at least one other MOM performance early on but he completely went to shit after that.

[Mister E]

I hope Holman can break back into the team. he was probably MOM against Swansea and played very well early on. Not sure what happened, maybe he faded in training?

He was MOM v Swansea and deservedly so. I think he had at least one other MOM performance early on but he completely went to shit after that.

I think it's a combination of the step up in standard and the lack of a clear positional role fo him - is he a winger? a midfield grafter? a box-to-box player? a withdrawn striker?
It's not obvious to me and he hasn't made any one position his own.
And coming on for cameo roles clearly doesn't suit him - he needs a solid run of games to 'bed down'.

After last year's pre-season games I forecast that once he'd found his feet in the P'ship he'd be a bit of a diamond for us. He's failed to impose himself and his technique seems average at best (apart from his shooting which genuinely does seem to be a talent).
Regrettably I think we should offload Holman and he may well do a decent job elsewhere.

[Karl Bridges]

You miss that peak moment at the end of the week after working your backside off. You don't get any rewards for it

This kind of sums up the way he plays. Runs around a lot, no end product.

[Rudy65]

Its only when Westwood hit form in the second half of the season that by comparison I realised just how poor Herd was in midfield. He is cover at FB at most.

Herd is always getting unnecessary yellow cards due to some wild tackles. No discipline or maybe he just isn't good enough.

Herd and Holman must realise Lambert doesn't rate them and will probably leave

[Concrete John]

Herd and Holman must realise Lambert doesn't rate them and will probably leave

One thing they both have in their favour is versatility, which may seem them retained as squad players.

[JUAN PABLO]

Is his shooting that good?      I remember one the goalkeeper should have saved . He has not scored that many .  Good work rate but brings nothing to the party . 

If we are going to move on to the next level (   8th - 10th )  then Holman is not good enough .

New signings and a few of the youngsters bringing through please.

[achilles]

To move forward we have to replace either Westwood or Delph as neither offer any goal threat at all. Delph has been impressive towards the end of the season but only in a destructive manner whereas Westwood is more constuctive but not as combative as Delph. I have been impressed with Sylla and he certainly deserves a prolonged run in the team. I think Holman deserves another season to try and get a run in the team to prove his worth. I would certainly keep Herd as he can fit into many positions and not look out of place, a very good squad player.