Herd and Holman

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

We didn't pay anything for either, so let them improve to standards that will improve us.

[pauliewalnuts]

We didn't pay anything for either, so let them improve to standards that will improve us.

I take your point, and kind of agree, but feel the need to flag up that while they might not have cost us a transfer fee, they're costing us wages.

I actually think I've seen more from Herd that makes me think he's worth keeping on than I have from Holman. Herd has been here longer, yes, but I've seen precious little from Holman to make me think he's good enough.

I appreciate that some players take a long while to bed in, and this season has been a tough one for any player to bed in, but I don't know, I just look at Holman, and I can't see what he actually does other than run around a lot (which in itself is admirable, just not enough if that's all there is).

[Chris Smith]

I can't see Herd ever being a regular starter for us. I hope I'm wrong because I like his attitude, but while being a jack of all trades is useful from a squad perspective, being master of none is a disadvantage when it comes to nailing a first team place.

[Dante Lavelli]

We're in a reasonably good position here as I'd guess both could get a pay rise if they left so - for a change - we should be able to shift them if we choose. 

Personally I think we need to loose a few numbers from midfield as we need to free up space for a new signing (i.e. a first teamer) and players such as gardner coming through.

[eamonn]

Holman hit the bar against Arsenal with a great shot and scored a couple of nice goals at QPR and Norwich. He seems to show glimpses of skill - I remember a slick bit of play that set-up Weimann for an effort off the post against Everton at the start of the season but he's flattered to deceive in general.

[neo_Villan]

Personally I think we need to loose a few numbers from midfield as we need to free up space for a new signing (i.e. a first teamer) and players such as gardner coming through.

This. Despite our central midfield being so weak, we have an abundunce of CMs. I think we will need to ship out 3 minimum if we are to strengthen in that area.

[Matt Collins]

Holman has done well at times, poor at others. I can't believe anyone thinks herd is good enough.  I imagine he and lichaj will be gone pretty soon

[Mister E]

Holman has done well at times, poor at others. I can't believe anyone thinks herd is good enough.  I imagine he and lichaj will be gone pretty soon

Herd was one of the few bright sparks from last season.

Played as a DMF he'd be a useful squad player, but I'm not seeing him as anything other than that.

[N'ZMAV]

For a relegation battle, Herd is fine - that's his level - anything higher then he won't be needed.

[Mister E]

For a relegation battle, Herd is fine - that's his level - anything higher then he won't be needed.

We'd better keep him then!

[pauliewalnuts]

Holman has done well at times, poor at others. I can't believe anyone thinks herd is good enough.  I imagine he and lichaj will be gone pretty soon

I can see Herd being useful possibly, but Lichaj, to me, looks suspiciously like he's not good enough for this level.

[PaulTheVillan]

I imagine Holman will go back to Holland or to Germany or somewhere in the summer.

Herd is useful to have in the squad.

[N'ZMAV]

Lichaj is pretty shit.

[supertom]

I think we could have used Herd a few times this season in midfield. He's not really been given the chance though. That said, it was needs must more than anything, because I don't think he's good enough. I love his attitude, and Holman's. With Sylla emerging, he does everything Herd could do last season in CM, but with added physical prowess and a bit more quality too.

Holman has faded in truth. I thought he started the season okay. We seemed to look better with him in the side. He's good when he has time on the ball. In close quarter situations or when he's rushed, his poor technique lets him down. But I do like him for his industry. He could still prove useful, who knows. Is he good enough? Perhaps not. We can find players with plenty of huff and puff, with much better ball control. Holman can spank a shot though it must be said. If he'd had a few more goals by this point, he'd have proven far more useful, and some of his deffiencies could be forgiven.

[eastie]

There are too many players who can be labelled squad players but who are not good enough to hold down a regular 1st team place - especially in midfield we have plenty of players who lack the quality needed to stay in the team , the likes of bannan, kea, Holman, herd, Ireland, can all play ok on their day but none are consistent enough .

I would say westwood and Delph and( hopefully sylla ) will prove good enough but we need a couple of decent midfielders in the summer and to lose some of those who do not have whats required at this level.