Herd and Holman

[Clampy]

Like i said Eastie, some players adapt quicker than others. Nani at Man Utd took an age before he finallly settled. Bale did'nt do anything at Spurs for 18 months or so. Petrov took a couple of seasons as well. It happens. They might not be good enough in the long run who knows, but it's a bit to early to write them off completely yet.

[N'ZMAV]

Some players never adapt, and find their level, like Darren Huckerby for example...

[neo_Villan]

Thought Holman was good v Norwich also in the League Cup.

Only in the first half. Sadly he didn't build on that performance either. Rarely offers anything offensively other then the occasional decent 25 yard strike. The Dutch league really must be shit if he was considered a good playmaker over there. 

[Clampy]

I can't say i've been over impressed with either if i'm honest but i'm happy to give them another season before i totally write them off.

[N'ZMAV]

I think Holman will be off this summer.

[neo_Villan]

Like i said Eastie, some players adapt quicker than others. Nani at Man Utd took an age before he finallly settled. Bale did'nt do anything at Spurs for 18 months or so. Petrov took a couple of seasons as well. It happens. They might not be good enough in the long run who knows, but it's a bit to early to write them off completely yet.

Problem is that KEA and Holman are in their late 20s. So time not really on their side.

[Clampy]

Like i said Eastie, some players adapt quicker than others. Nani at Man Utd took an age before he finallly settled. Bale did'nt do anything at Spurs for 18 months or so. Petrov took a couple of seasons as well. It happens. They might not be good enough in the long run who knows, but it's a bit to early to write them off completely yet.

Problem is that KEA and Holman are in their late 20s. So time not really on their side.

That's a fair point. I'd still like to see what they can do next season though.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think Holman will be off this summer.

Me too.

[Matt C]

With KEA there's been evidence of potential and given a bit more time in a team that isn't struggling desperately then I think he might be OK. Holman if I'm honest, I'd forgotten about - he's been pretty annoymous. Worth persisting with both for a bit longer but like others, suspect Holman will be off this summer regardless.

[SoccerHQ]

Who would buy Holman apart from a dutch club? Same for KEA.

[neo_Villan]

With KEA there's been evidence of potential and given a bit more time in a team that isn't struggling desperately then I think he might be OK. Holman if I'm honest, I'd forgotten about - he's been pretty annoymous. Worth persisting with both for a bit longer but like others, suspect Holman will be off this summer regardless.

This.

[ciggiesnbeer]

I rather like Holman. I hope he comes good.

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Holman, Bannan and KEA all have two many flaws in their game to be Premiership central midfielders. If only we could combine them we have the bloody good central midfielder we desperately need.

[Dave P]

This may be harsh, but I've always compared Holman to the type of player small heath would have signed circa 2002 when they were new to the Prem.  Works hard, runs around a lot but lacks any quality needed at the top level.

Of course I want him to come good but I do think he is very limited.

[SoccerHQ]

This may be harsh, but I've always compared Holman to the type of player small heath would have signed circa 2002 when they were new to the Prem.  Works hard, runs around a lot but lacks any quality needed at the top level.

Of course I want him to come good but I do think he is very limited.

No surprise the manager that signed him!

In fairness he looked good for AZ in some of the european games they played and he did look o.k for a bit of the first half of the season. I think he's another one who's been affected by the chelsea game as his form has been non-existant since.