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Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #390 on: July 10, 2014, 09:44:25 AM »
We will struggle to keep him now...plenty of sides will be looking for an experience CB costing less than 10m. To me he looks better value for Man. United than someone like Vermaelean who is even more injury prone.

With 1 year left on his deal we're sitting ducks really if clubs start enquiring.

He does have his faults and picks up too many injuries but you'd see his real quality in a proper defence. Stick him in the 07/08 or 09/10 defences instead of Knight or Collins and he'd be ranked a lot higher in the villa defender lists.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #391 on: July 10, 2014, 09:47:02 AM »
He was outstanding and I think that proves that he's a good player and I believe he could comfortably fit in it a club higher up the league. I really hope he stays, but given his age, contract situation and the club's instability I'd be surprised.

Van Gaal has no doubt tapped him up for Manure while they've been away. Can't blame Ron if he goes given the circumstances at B6

It's a distinct possibility, I know some people don't rate Ron but I think he's a good player and he'd improve the Man Utd defence in my opinion. If you combine that with his contract situation and the club's situation I'd say it's reasonably likely.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #392 on: July 10, 2014, 10:05:24 AM »
From F365:

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Vlaar won 100% of his tackles, 100% of his aerial duels, made 11 clearances (five more than any other player on the field) and registered a pass accuracy of 92% - it was as close to the perfect performance as we have seen throughout this tournament.

Sadly one of those passes was straight at the Argentinian keeper.

It would be complete madness to sell him with the current state of affairs at the club and hope Senderos wasn't bought in the knowledge that Vlaar is off.

And yet according to Tyldesley, former Liverpool player Mascherano was the man of the match....

And from that I think we can safely deduce that Tyldesley = Twat.

Far too polite.

He is a cliched riven sycophantic belllend who is wholly unprofesssional and biased when England or 'English' teams play.

If hell exists, and thankfully it doesn't, it would listenting to hin ad infinitum

His amazement at Argentina's manager having played for Leeds and Sheffield United was toe curling too. That's a higher level of football than the England manager ever performed at, Clive.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #393 on: July 10, 2014, 10:55:55 AM »
It's amazing what a good defensive partner and a couple of good midfielders has done for Ron.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #394 on: July 10, 2014, 11:03:54 AM »
To be honest I think the WC made him look better than he is. If someone offers good money it's a no brainer.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #395 on: July 10, 2014, 11:13:06 AM »
No it hasn't, I think the Villa team around him sometimes make him look worse than he is.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #396 on: July 10, 2014, 11:16:37 AM »
It's amazing what a good defensive partner and a couple of good midfielders has done for Ron.
This.


In Okore he has that defensive partner and I think we could see that in the few games they played together last season....

midfield?

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #397 on: July 10, 2014, 11:19:30 AM »
To be honest I think the WC made him look better than he is. If someone offers good money it's a no brainer.

How does that work?

Apparently, last night he won 100% of tackles, 100% of aerial duels, made 11 clearances and had a pass accuracy of 92%

I find it very unlikely that was due in large part to the players around him, whereas, looking at the shitness of Baker and Clark, I find it extremely easy to believe it is them making him look worse than he is.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #398 on: July 10, 2014, 11:22:20 AM »
We have the power here. He's just had a storming world cup. Look at the market right now. Despite FFP and all that shite, players are still moving for utterly ludicrous sums. I say we take no less than 10 mill for Vlaar to be honest. Also, if LVG decides he wants Ron then we've certainly got to charge another Prem club a premium, particularly Utd.

If we keep him on, he sees out his deal, shake of the hand, goodbye, good luck. He'll get minted moving on a Bosman.

Ideal World scenario though is that we offer him a new deal and he accepts. He's a player we should be building our backline around.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #399 on: July 10, 2014, 11:23:05 AM »
To be honest I think the WC made him look better than he is. If someone offers good money it's a no brainer.

How does that work?

Apparently, last night he won 100% of tackles, 100% of aerial duels, made 11 clearances and had a pass accuracy of 92%

I find it very unlikely that was due in large part to the players around him, whereas, looking at the shitness of Baker and Clark, I find it extremely easy to believe it is them making him look worse than he is.

Exactly and I'd say having Messi in his pocket suggests he's alright. As I've said before sadly he'll be cheap and he'd improve most sides. So for all those saying Man Utd can do better I disagree, certainly at the transfer fee he would likely command.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #400 on: July 10, 2014, 11:23:56 AM »
Yeah agree, Vlaar has shown us the player he can be with some quality players around him.

But we are so far removed from Holland as a footballing entity that it must feel like test driving Audi R8 and then climbing back into a 12 year old Peugeot.


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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #401 on: July 10, 2014, 11:25:30 AM »
I don't see why he would be cheap. If a side wants to buy him and play him next season, then they'll pay a fee that is acceptable. If not, then they will have to wait. In that time, new owners might come in and things may look very different indeed.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #402 on: July 10, 2014, 11:28:16 AM »
To be honest I think the WC made him look better than he is. If someone offers good money it's a no brainer.

How does that work?

Apparently, last night he won 100% of tackles, 100% of aerial duels, made 11 clearances and had a pass accuracy of 92%

I find it very unlikely that was due in large part to the players around him, whereas, looking at the shitness of Baker and Clark, I find it extremely easy to believe it is them making him look worse than he is.
He's kept the best player in the World quiet all game. He's already made Diego Costa, one of the new wave of galacticos, look like a pub player. Likewise in that Argentina lineup, Higuain is no mug either. That's not by accident.

De Vrij is a decent player too and I think this has shown how beneficial it is for Vlaar to have comptetent partner he doesn't have to worry about. When he can concentrate on his own game, he's good.
Earlier last season when Clark was in the side and playing well, we also saw the best of Vlaar because he was more focused on what he was doing, not worrying about all the dropped bollocks around him. Second half when he mostly played with Baker, or sometimes both, he struggled a little more, though was still largely solid.

In terms of those around him, no Villa centerback has had it tougher than Vlaar in recent years. Knight and Davies are an upgrade on Baker and Clark.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #403 on: July 10, 2014, 11:28:37 AM »
He's just had a storming world cup.

Ideal World scenario though is that we offer him a new deal and he accepts. He's a player we should be building our backline around.

The fact that he's just had a storming WC makes me think it's less likely he'd re-sign with us, particularly if there no new buyer on the horizon.

I know I wouldn't if I were him.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #404 on: July 10, 2014, 11:29:50 AM »
I think it helps that there is a midfield in front of him too. He has played very well though and shown he is a good player.

I hope we get to see him partner Okore next season.

 


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