Concrete Ron

[JUAN PABLO]

Not fussed about him at all. Hardly in the same league as a Teale, Ehiogu or Laursen

I don't even think he's as good as Clark at the moment, and getting Clark to be put doodle a new contract should be a higher priority.

Spot on

[john e]

Not fussed about him at all. Hardly in the same league as a Teale, Ehiogu or Laursen

I don't even think he's as good as Clark at the moment, and getting Clark to be put doodle a new contract should be a higher priority.

Spot on

Agreed

[CJ]

Not bothered either way tbh. If he does take a step up to another club he'll probably injure his calf in the process, and he won't find another club with better medical facilities than us.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Not fussed about him at all. Hardly in the same league as a Teale, Ehiogu or Laursen

I don't even think he's as good as Clark at the moment, and getting Clark to be put doodle a new contract should be a higher priority.

Spot on

Agreed

Agreed x 2.

Teams have experienced players because they don't make stupid mistakes like younger players might. Ron consistently makes glaring, basic errors and gets completely outplayed by nimble footed geniuses like Bobby fu**ing Zamora.

Close the door on your way out Ron.

[olaftab]

Not sure if this debate is being fuelled by Ron's comment in the Press today. Not read it myself but heard on Talksport that he said he can do better than Villa. Darren Bent was being interviewed this morning and he was asked to comment on that and fair play to Darren as he said there is no need for a comment like that because Villa are a big club.
Anyway wasn't bothered before and if he did say that he can £*ck off right now.

[saunders_heroes]

I don't mind seeing the back of Vlaar, but will we replace him with a better player or more bargain basement rubbish that we've been mainly signing over the last 5 years? That's the worry.

[olaftab]

It doesn't take much to go better than Vlaar.

[Mister E]

I don't mind seeing the back of Vlaar, but will we replace him with a better player or more bargain basement rubbish that we've been mainly signing over the last 5 years? That's the worry.

We could do with someone who has had Premier League experience but who is reliable, injury-free and able to support the continuing development of Clark, Baker and Okore.
If Vlaar stays, it should be as a squad player.
And what about Senderos? - should he be kept or offloaded?

[RussellC]

Whilst I agree that Vlaar’s performances this season have been largely hit an miss (and more of the latter), when fit and on his game, he’s still a top-drawer centre-back. Remember his performance at White Lane earlier in the season? We’d need to spend a sizeable amount of money to guarantee adequately replacing him. On the back of losing Cleverley, I think it’d be a real blow to lose Ron too.

[RussellC]

Re; Senderos - I actaullay thought he looked very good at the start Of the season. Stoke and Liverpool away were particular highlights. However, if you look back through his club career he only averages about 15 games per season, and it’s actually decreasing year-on-year. He made 8 appearances for us last season, and- as far as I’m aware – was kept out by a series of niggles as opposed to serious injury which, in a way, is even more of a concern for a player of his age. If Ron stays, I’d look to get rid.

[Brend'Watkins]

We must be the unluckiest club in the Prem with injuries to our recognized back 4 options. 

Senderos and Vlaar our most experienced and are our most injured.  It's as though the main thing that Okore, Clark and Baker have picked up from playing alongside them is how to get injured.

[pauliewalnuts]

Whilst I agree that Vlaar’s performances this season have been largely hit an miss (and more of the latter), when fit and on his game, he’s still a top-drawer centre-back. Remember his performance at White Lane earlier in the season? We’d need to spend a sizeable amount of money to guarantee adequately replacing him. On the back of losing Cleverley, I think it’d be a real blow to lose Ron too.

I think that's partly right.

I agree, he can be a top drawer centre half at times, but would throw in two caveats there - his horrendous injury record which by nature introduces an element of instability to the back four, and the fact that he is one of those players who is prone to the odd awful game, but when he has such a game, it isn't just a bad one, it is a horrible one.

Ultimately, he's at the age where this will be his last contract, and he's a free agent, he'll be looking for as much money as he can possibly get.

I think there are a lot of people out there in football who think of Vlaar and think of the one at the World Cup last summer, rather than seeing what we see over a longer period of time, and therefore will be more inclined (or able) than us to spend big money on him.

I think he'll be off.

I also think saunders_heroes is absolutely right in that the issue here isn't whether he goes or not, it is if he goes, what sort of player will we replace him with?

[manic-road]

I'm not bothered about Ron possibly going, he said he can step up a level but he didn't reach a decent level at the Villa. If he was as good as he thinks clubs would have been trying to get him after the World Cup.

I reckon would could get better than Ron quite comfortably, it just depends on whether Tim will be given any money whilst the takeover is possibly going ahead.

[PaulWinch again]

I think those who seem pretty happy about Vlaar potentially leaving need to consider what Sherwood's plans are. He wanted Cleverley, but he chose to leave. He clearly wants Vlaar, so if he chooses to leave that is not going to be a particularly positive sign. These players would be costly and difficult to replace. I really hope Vlaar stays. 

[somec]

Most of our players who made similar comments to Vlaar ended up at Middlesbrough.

Based on last season the championship would be about his level.