The Cricket Thread 2013

[PaulWinch again]

A better balance would be Carberry, Root, Trott, KP, Wright, Bopara, Morgan, Buttler, Tredwell, Finn, Rankin

40 overs from Tredwell, Wright, Finn & Rankin with 10 shared between 5 bowlers.

Or drop Carberry, open with KP and bring in one of the young quicks.

The Aussies seem to be more settled than we are, but we'll come good.

I still think that's short a strike bowler.

[spangley1812]

A better balance would be Carberry, Root, Trott, KP, Wright, Bopara, Morgan, Buttler, Tredwell, Finn, Rankin

40 overs from Tredwell, Wright, Finn & Rankin with 10 shared between 5 bowlers.

Or drop Carberry, open with KP and bring in one of the young quicks.

The Aussies seem to be more settled than we are, but we'll come good.

I still think that's short a strike bowler.

Carberry for Jordan for me

[PaulWinch again]

I'm fine with a bit of experimentation in our batting line up, so I'd give Carberry the next three games. I'd drop Trott, purely as we know what he can do and England have clearly earmarked this as a chance to look at players. Bring Overton in for Trott and swap Wright for Stokes, as I think Stokes can potentially be our Test number 6 if he develops.

[spangley1812]

I'm fine with a bit of experimentation in our batting line up, so I'd give Carberry the next three games. I'd drop Trott, purely as we know what he can do and England have clearly earmarked this as a chance to look at players. Bring Overton in for Trott and swap Wright for Stokes, as I think Stokes can potentially be our Test number 6 if he develops.

I see what you are saying about Carberry being given a chance but how many chances has Luke Wright had

[PaulWinch again]

I'm fine with a bit of experimentation in our batting line up, so I'd give Carberry the next three games. I'd drop Trott, purely as we know what he can do and England have clearly earmarked this as a chance to look at players. Bring Overton in for Trott and swap Wright for Stokes, as I think Stokes can potentially be our Test number 6 if he develops.

I see what you are saying about Carberry being given a chance but how many chances has Luke Wright had

A lot in the past, I'm not saying discard him completely. He's been excellent at Twenty20, but I think at the moment Carberry deserves a shot in this series. Stokes is the future in my opinion, his bowling will develop to be excellent and his batting can be very destructive.

[spangley1812]

I'm fine with a bit of experimentation in our batting line up, so I'd give Carberry the next three games. I'd drop Trott, purely as we know what he can do and England have clearly earmarked this as a chance to look at players. Bring Overton in for Trott and swap Wright for Stokes, as I think Stokes can potentially be our Test number 6 if he develops.

I see what you are saying about Carberry being given a chance but how many chances has Luke Wright had

A lot in the past, I'm not saying discard him completely. He's been excellent at Twenty20, but I think at the moment Carberry deserves a shot in this series. Stokes is the future in my opinion, his bowling will develop to be excellent and his batting can be very destructive.

I would leave Wright for the T20 games and let Stokes play as many games as he can

[PaulWinch again]

I agree.

[Dave Cooper please]

What is the point of Carberry? He's an average county trundler who has had a couple of decent seasons. He's neither the latecomer who will fulfill his dreams nor the future of English cricket.
If we must pick a 2nd XI to play these pointless one dayers then at least pick some promising youngsters to blood them in International cricket.

[PaulWinch again]

What is the point of Carberry? He's an average county trundler who has had a couple of decent seasons. He's neither the latecomer who will fulfill his dreams nor the future of English cricket.
If we must pick a 2nd XI to play these pointless one dayers then at least pick some promising youngsters to blood them in International cricket.

I think the point is, he's had a couple of decent seasons and it's important to show that if players perform in county cricket they can get a shot at the England team.

[Dave Cooper please]

All very nice but he's getting a shot at the expense of a player who could be part of the team for the next 10 to 15 years.

See Lambert, Rickie.

[PaulWinch again]

All very nice but he's getting a shot at the expense of a player who could be part of the team for the next 10 to 15 years.

See Lambert, Rickie.

With regards Lambert he's serving a purpose at the moment, and the next 10 or 15 years are not that important at the moment. England need to win or draw tomorrow.

[PaulWinch again]

I just hope the selectors realise that the balance we went in with yesterday will never work. In Ireland we conceded too many runs with the same bowling attack and it was the same against Australia. You can't only have 3 genuine bowlers in the team, it just doesn't work.

[paul_e]

I just hope the selectors realise that the balance we went in with yesterday will never work. In Ireland we conceded too many runs with the same bowling attack and it was the same against Australia. You can't only have 3 genuine bowlers in the team, it just doesn't work.

This is the key, Stokes has promise with the ball, but to expect him to bowl 8-10 overs in an ODI at this stage is unfair.  I said after Ireland we were a bowler short and I still believe that.  If Finn wasn't leaking runs and Rankin wasn't just games into his England career it might be plausible but right now it's just hurting the squad to play as we are.  For me you can only pick 1 of Bopara or Stokes, so it's a choice of proven but inconsistent quality or unproven promise.

I know they struggled a little but I'd keep the batting line up, they had a big total to chase on a pitch that was always going to be against them so, whilst they failed as a unit, the whole mindset in the side was wrong after the aussie innings.

Personally I'd play the same side except Jordan in as the extra bowler and Stokes up to 6 with Bopara out.  Tough on Ravi but I just don't trust him to not wrap his wicket up and hand it over like he did.  If he was out trying to smash it for 6 or done by a good one I wouldn't mind but too often it's gentle lobs straight to a close fielder/bowler.

[PGW]

"nd Semi of YB40 tonight at Trent Bridge Notts v Somerset been rain affected and Notts put Somerset in on what is now a 35 over match.
Somerset were awful all out for 119 in 25.4 overs.

So i would hazard a guess that Notts will win this....seemed a decent pitch!!!

[PGW]

Notts require 25 from 126 balls.

Should have watched friggin Eastenders at least that would have sent me to sleep!