The Cricket Thread 2013

[john e]

It isn't tarnished. yes you'd rather you'd win without any controversy but Trott wasn't out and Broad was so it evens itself up. I too thought Broad should have walked and hope he recognises it publicly. But, the more money and the more professional any sport becomes the less you see days gone by amateur sensibilities being commonplace. Maybe after a while he thought he should have walked to but in the heat fo the moment he didn't. Then walking wiould have made himself look ridiculous. Should he have walked? Yes. Will I celebrate if we win the test? Yes.

One of my Dads old sayings was 'if you can't win without cheating, it's best not to win at all'

Broad didn't need to cheat to win yesterday, he could have taken the moral high ground and winning would have been all the sweeter

[SashasGrandad]

If all international players in world cricket agree a code whereby they walk if they know they've edged  it, then maybe (and good luck in getting Australia to agree to that).

Until that day, Broad was 110% in the right to do what he did today.   

Agree totally - Broad had every right to stand and wait for the umpire - as Sir Geoffrey pointed out very few Australians walk.

These things even themselves out - Trott's decision etc.

The only moral argument is England should not appear to give the impression that they need dodgy decisions to win. The Aussies appear to be trying their hardest to avoid this series being a walkover for England as some were predicting.

Yes I'm hoping England win but I hope the Aussies put up some resistance. The Broad incident might help fire them up a bit.

[john e]

If all international players in world cricket agree a code whereby they walk if they know they've edged  it, then maybe (and good luck in getting Australia to agree to that).

Until that day, Broad was 110% in the right to do what he did today.   

Agree totally - Broad had every right to stand and wait for the umpire - as Sir Geoffrey pointed out very few Australians walk.

These things even themselves out - Trott's decision etc.

The only moral argument is England should not appear to give the impression that they need dodgy decisions to win. The Aussies appear to be trying their hardest to avoid this series being a walkover for England as some were predicting.

Yes I'm hoping England win but I hope the Aussies put up some resistance. The Broad incident might help fire them up a bit.

How does that argument stand up with Armstrong then ?

If everyone is in tacit agreement there is no problem ?

[SashasGrandad]

Referees, Umpires etc all make mistakes. Alim Dar is a very good umpire. He is not perfect. Players naturally want to avoid getting out - if you are a batsman facing an lbw appeal the first thing you do is look at the edge of your bat and pretend you got a touch on it or you shuffle a bit to leg to make the umpire think the ball was missing the stumps.

I know I won't go to heaven as I was given out lbw when playing against the Worcester Clergy team - I stood there looking at my bat, then started to walk "Could have sworn I touched that" I said to the keeper. Next thing I knew they withdrew the appeal. I went on to achieve my highest score (don't laugh it was only 13 - but included 2 fours).

Never been comfortable when in a church since!

Drugs is a different issue that is premeditated (or is that pre-medicated) I could go on for days about that - and I'm spending the weekend working at the British Athletics trials this weekend.

[Ads]

Saying Broad cheated is sanctimonious drivel and the artles in the Sydney Morning Herald bleating on are hypocritical pish too.

Its the umpires job to send you back to the hutch and you are perfectly entitled to stand your ground. No umpire is perfect and he will make mistakes that turn out positively for you or more often than not, going against you. England themselves have been on the end of two howlers in this game alone.

At the end of the day Clarke only has himself to blame for his poor use of DRS.

[LeeB]

I reckon we'll leave them broken with 400 plus to chase, and then skittle them for less than 150.

[Monty]

Not just the Trott dismissal, but Agar was definitely, definitely not in his ground when given not out on that stumping decision early in his innings, far as I'm concerned. The Aussies have benefited from some poor decisions in this match and now so have we - it doesn't change the fact that they've failed to get out Ian Bell, the main reason for England's lead building strongly.

[PaulWinch again]

Right come on England.

[PaulWinch again]

Good start Mitch!

[PaulWinch again]

Edge through the slips from Broad, stop those shots though.

[PGW]

Edge through the slips from Broad, stop those shots though.

Another dose of salt in those Aussie wounds!

Poor souls!

[PaulWinch again]

Brilliant brilliant 100 Bell, best for England. Keep going.

[PGW]

Edge through the slips from Broad, stop those shots though.

Another dose of salt in those Aussie wounds!

Poor souls!

And that's another!!!

Well done Villa boy Belly!

[olaftab]

Watching a prog last night and seeing Randall walk in the Centenary test was a pleasure. It was a messy bat and pad and he could have stood his ground, as people refer to what is  basically cowardice, and may be won the historic test match but he didn't wait for an appeal or umpire he walked straight away therefor making the loss more honourable.

[PaulWinch again]

Broad gone, well played. Now need the tail to wag some more.