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Online spangley1812

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1815 on: July 11, 2013, 08:34:46 PM »
Just catching up.
Trott plays and think he Knicks the ball on to his pad.
The on field umpire agrees ns gives not out.
The Aussies refer it and the video evidence is inconclusive. A key piece of evidence is not available.
.....and he's given out?

Basically yes..........the hotspot/snicko machine was not ready

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1816 on: July 11, 2013, 08:46:22 PM »
Could've sworn I'd already posted on here about the Trott dismissal but I can't see it anywhere.  It was a shocking decision to overturn the onfield umpire in that situation.  I just can't work out how the 3rd Umpire thinks that is the right call.

The default of the review system is that if the evidence can't conclusively prove that the umpire was wrong then the umpire's decision is upheld.  Given the umpire gave not out on the basis of it taking a nick the requirement was for the 3rd umpire to prove beyond doubt that there was no nick, which he couldn't do without hotspot.  I genuinely think England should call an appeal on that one regardless of what happens in the game because the review system is fairly clear in it's guidelines and this seems a clear failure to adhere to those.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1817 on: July 11, 2013, 08:49:37 PM »
Could've sworn I'd already posted on here about the Trott dismissal but I can't see it anywhere.  It was a shocking decision to overturn the onfield umpire in that situation.  I just can't work out how the 3rd Umpire thinks that is the right call.

The default of the review system is that if the evidence can't conclusively prove that the umpire was wrong then the umpire's decision is upheld.  Given the umpire gave not out on the basis of it taking a nick the requirement was for the 3rd umpire to prove beyond doubt that there was no nick, which he couldn't do without hotspot.  I genuinely think England should call an appeal on that one regardless of what happens in the game because the review system is fairly clear in it's guidelines and this seems a clear failure to adhere to those.


Completely agree, if the technology isn't ALL available you can't use it. That decision should have stayed with the umpire and the Aussies should have kept their review. Combine with the fact the Agar should have been out stumped, Erasmus had a poor day.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1818 on: July 11, 2013, 08:49:57 PM »
A Cook double century and a Pietersen century would be nice tomorrow!

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1819 on: July 11, 2013, 09:01:10 PM »
I'd really like to see the stumping one, I didn't see that live but england seem pretty miffed about it.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1820 on: July 11, 2013, 09:04:21 PM »
I'd really like to see the stumping one, I didn't see that live but england seem pretty miffed about it.

I think his foot might have been in the air and it wasn't behind the line.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1821 on: July 11, 2013, 09:09:20 PM »
Not managed to see much today but it was another day of compelling test cricket. England are in charge and a lead of 250 plus will be enough.
It was a pleasure to hear about Agar's performance. This is the great thing about this game. A possible future gem  for world of cricket has been found. Big shame that the boy didn't complete his 100 but it appears that he will develop into a decent batter so will get many more opportunities.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1822 on: July 11, 2013, 09:11:32 PM »
I'd really like to see the stumping one, I didn't see that live but england seem pretty miffed about it.

I think his foot might have been in the air and it wasn't behind the line.
It was fair decision based on technology limitation. Just remember without relying on video replays any umpire would never have given that.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1823 on: July 11, 2013, 09:13:59 PM »
I'd really like to see the stumping one, I didn't see that live but england seem pretty miffed about it.

I think his foot might have been in the air and it wasn't behind the line.
It was fair decision based on technology limitation. Just remember without relying on video replays any umpire would never have given that.

I don't think the technology was overly limited in that case, I think it looked out.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1824 on: July 11, 2013, 09:15:06 PM »
Regardless he played great. We now need KP and Cook to ideally be there at tea tomorrow.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1825 on: July 11, 2013, 09:33:08 PM »
That stumping is definitely definitely out.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1826 on: July 11, 2013, 09:35:41 PM »
Erasmus's decisions were fucking shocking and could cost us the game.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1827 on: July 11, 2013, 10:15:31 PM »
I fucking love The Ashes.

Agar was out stumped on six, should have got a ton, I almost didn't want to celebrate the catch when he holed out to Swann.

We need a lead of 250, I still reckon we are favorites.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1828 on: July 11, 2013, 10:16:37 PM »
Erasmus's decisions were fucking shocking and could cost us the game.
Yep nail on head.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2013
« Reply #1829 on: July 12, 2013, 01:49:30 AM »
Went to Trent Bridge toady (nice to see an AVFC flag there!!) and although I was sat high up and far from the screens in the stadium, it was clear from the replays shown on them that Agar was out and Trott wasn't.  Two really poor decisions that could be very costly for England.  That said, Agar played brilliantly (as did Hughes) and it was a shame he didn't get his century.  We've got to bat really well to get something from this game now. 

 


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