The Cricket Thread 2013

[paul_e]

Maybe so, but his record in England in matches he's played is still good.

If you talking about Monty - when things are working for him he's fantastic, when they aren't he offers very little else to justify his selection.  He has too many innings where to bowls 40-50 overs for 0-1 wickets.  Yes he's only going for 3 an over but it's difficult to build any pressure when there's no threat at one end.  Swann is much more willing to mix things up to try to get in the batsman's head, he can be expensive because of it but he also makes things happen without the conditions to help.  Then on top of that he's an excellent fielder and handy with the bat.

[PaulWinch again]

Great achievement from Prior to get into the top 10 batsmen in the world.

[cdbearsfan]

http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/mar/27/jesse-ryder-critical-condition

Doesn't sound good.

[JD]

http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/mar/27/jesse-ryder-critical-condition

Doesn't sound good.

Absolutely disgusting. Guy attacked by four thugs in an upmarket bar in an upmarket area. Problem with Christchurch ay the moment is that due to the rebuild there are a lot of builders etc that have come here to earn a living, but they get bored and pissed up (due to a lot of them being away from families). If this turns out to be locals it will be even worse, but there's a nasty undercurrent here at the moment at times. 

[Villan For Life]

http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/mar/27/jesse-ryder-critical-condition

Doesn't sound good.

Absolutely disgusting. Guy attacked by four thugs in an upmarket bar in an upmarket area. Problem with Christchurch ay the moment is that due to the rebuild there are a lot of builders etc that have come here to earn a living, but they get bored and pissed up (due to a lot of them being away from families). If this turns out to be locals it will be even worse, but there's a nasty undercurrent here at the moment at times. 

Get well soon Jesse

[PaulWinch again]

It does sound horrible, hope he recovers.

[el león Benidorm]

Maybe so, but his record in England in matches he's played is still good.

If you talking about Monty - when things are working for him he's fantastic, when they aren't he offers very little else to justify his selection.  He has too many innings where to bowls 40-50 overs for 0-1 wickets.  Yes he's only going for 3 an over but it's difficult to build any pressure when there's no threat at one end.  Swann is much more willing to mix things up to try to get in the batsman's head, he can be expensive because of it but he also makes things happen without the conditions to help.  Then on top of that he's an excellent fielder and handy with the bat.

So are you saying Monty cannot bat or field... just to clarify

[paul_e]

Maybe so, but his record in England in matches he's played is still good.

If you talking about Monty - when things are working for him he's fantastic, when they aren't he offers very little else to justify his selection.  He has too many innings where to bowls 40-50 overs for 0-1 wickets.  Yes he's only going for 3 an over but it's difficult to build any pressure when there's no threat at one end.  Swann is much more willing to mix things up to try to get in the batsman's head, he can be expensive because of it but he also makes things happen without the conditions to help.  Then on top of that he's an excellent fielder and handy with the bat.

So are you saying Monty cannot bat or field... just to clarify

Surely anyone who's ever watched Monty with a bat in his hand can see he's lost and the sight of monty under a high catch in the outfield has got to be one of the scariest in sport.

To clarify, he's one of the worst batsmen i've ever seen at international level and his fielding is worse.

[Villan For Life]

Maybe so, but his record in England in matches he's played is still good.

If you talking about Monty - when things are working for him he's fantastic, when they aren't he offers very little else to justify his selection.  He has too many innings where to bowls 40-50 overs for 0-1 wickets.  Yes he's only going for 3 an over but it's difficult to build any pressure when there's no threat at one end.  Swann is much more willing to mix things up to try to get in the batsman's head, he can be expensive because of it but he also makes things happen without the conditions to help.  Then on top of that he's an excellent fielder and handy with the bat.

So are you saying Monty cannot bat or field... just to clarify

Surely anyone who's ever watched Monty with a bat in his hand can see he's lost and the sight of monty under a high catch in the outfield has got to be one of the scariest in sport.

To clarify, he's one of the worst batsmen i've ever seen at international level and his fielding is worse.

Clearly he's worked at his game and his batting/fielding has improved but he can be a liability.

Duncan Flethcher introduced an ethic whereby test players were adept in two disciplines and most of the current squad are an example of this. Monty struggles with the bat and can be a messy fielder.

[el león Benidorm]

Maybe so, but his record in England in matches he's played is still good.

If you talking about Monty - when things are working for him he's fantastic, when they aren't he offers very little else to justify his selection.  He has too many innings where to bowls 40-50 overs for 0-1 wickets.  Yes he's only going for 3 an over but it's difficult to build any pressure when there's no threat at one end.  Swann is much more willing to mix things up to try to get in the batsman's head, he can be expensive because of it but he also makes things happen without the conditions to help.  Then on top of that he's an excellent fielder and handy with the bat.

So are you saying Monty cannot bat or field... just to clarify

Surely anyone who's ever watched Monty with a bat in his hand can see he's lost and the sight of monty under a high catch in the outfield has got to be one of the scariest in sport.

To clarify, he's one of the worst batsmen i've ever seen at international level and his fielding is worse.

Sorry, I think my sarcasm has missed the spot there.  Even as a lowly level 2 coach I can see that Monty is dreadful in the field and makes Tuffnell look like an opener.

[ACVilla]

Maybe so, but his record in England in matches he's played is still good.

If you talking about Monty - when things are working for him he's fantastic, when they aren't he offers very little else to justify his selection.  He has too many innings where to bowls 40-50 overs for 0-1 wickets.  Yes he's only going for 3 an over but it's difficult to build any pressure when there's no threat at one end.  Swann is much more willing to mix things up to try to get in the batsman's head, he can be expensive because of it but he also makes things happen without the conditions to help.  Then on top of that he's an excellent fielder and handy with the bat.

So are you saying Monty cannot bat or field... just to clarify

Surely anyone who's ever watched Monty with a bat in his hand can see he's lost and the sight of monty under a high catch in the outfield has got to be one of the scariest in sport.

To clarify, he's one of the worst batsmen i've ever seen at international level and his fielding is worse.

Clearly he's worked at his game and his batting/fielding has improved but he can be a liability.

Duncan Flethcher introduced an ethic whereby test players were adept in two disciplines and most of the current squad are an example of this. Monty struggles with the bat and can be a messy fielder.

I hate this theory that's player has to be adept in two disciplines. Courtney Walsh, Curtley Ambrose, Gladstone Small, Tim Munton, Bob Willis, Muttiah Muralitharan, Glen McGrath, Allan Donald, Harbhajan Singh, Michael Holding et al. These are people of the top of my head. I'm all for improving a performers all round game but I certainly don't see it as a prerequisite.

[bertlambshank]

Monty can bowl but doesn't know his best length or pace,he bloody well should by now.

[olaftab]

If you talking about Monty - when things are working for him he's fantastic, when they aren't he offers very little else to justify his selection.  He has too many innings where to bowls 40-50 overs for 0-1 wickets.  Yes he's only going for 3 an over but it's difficult to build

To clarify, he's one of the worst batsmen i've ever seen at international level and his fielding is worse.

He is not an international class spinner either.

[ACVilla]

If you talking about Monty - when things are working for him he's fantastic, when they aren't he offers very little else to justify his selection.  He has too many innings where to bowls 40-50 overs for 0-1 wickets.  Yes he's only going for 3 an over but it's difficult to build

To clarify, he's one of the worst batsmen i've ever seen at international level and his fielding is worse.

He is not an international class spinner either.

Yet hugely entertaining to watch when he partakes in all three disciplines 

[cdbearsfan]

If you talking about Monty - when things are working for him he's fantastic, when they aren't he offers very little else to justify his selection.  He has too many innings where to bowls 40-50 overs for 0-1 wickets.  Yes he's only going for 3 an over but it's difficult to build

To clarify, he's one of the worst batsmen i've ever seen at international level and his fielding is worse.

He is not an international class spinner either.

Nonsense. He'd still walk into most of the ten test teams and is better than any spinner England had throughout the 1990s and for most of the 2000s, off the top of my head.

We're lucky to have him as more than able cover for Swann.