Jordan Bowery

[paul_e]

Very average but might improve after a full pre-season. Nzogbia should of been brought on much earlier with a tired defence ......

The scoreline, statistics and our win ratio with him in the team show you're talking rubbish.

The scoreline, statistics and our win ratio show we have not beat them since 1984 at there place so i do not see your logic. Bowery looked tired well before he came off as he is obviously not match fit. When Nzogbia came on he livened our play up. I think he should of of come on 15 mins earlier and his introduction resulted in a victory ........

It's a pretty huge leap to give nzogbia credit for the victory to be honest.  When he came on he did exactly what was expected of him, after replacing another player who did exactly what was asked of him.  15minutes earlier and things may have been totally different.  We dominated Stoke at the britannia for most of the match, won 3-1 and didn't have anyone play badly for 90minutes but still people want to slag players off as not good enough, you're all insane.

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Very average but might improve after a full pre-season. Nzogbia should of been brought on much earlier with a tired defence ......

The scoreline, statistics and our win ratio with him in the team show you're talking rubbish.

The scoreline, statistics and our win ratio show we have not beat them since 1984 at there place so i do not see your logic. Bowery looked tired well before he came off as he is obviously not match fit. When Nzogbia came on he livened our play up. I think he should of of come on 15 mins earlier and his introduction resulted in a victory ........

It's a pretty huge leap to give nzogbia credit for the victory to be honest.  When he came on he did exactly what was expected of him, after replacing another player who did exactly what was asked of him.  15minutes earlier and things may have been totally different.  We dominated Stoke at the britannia for most of the match, won 3-1 and didn't have anyone play badly for 90minutes but still people want to slag players off as not good enough, you're all insane.

Paul i am not slagging Bowery. I just said he is very average. He did what he was told to do and done ok. I am merely saying i thought Zoggy should of come on earlier as i thought Bowery was tiring. I thought the whole team put in a great shift and every one of them deserves massive praise including Bowery .......

[paul_e]

Very average but might improve after a full pre-season. Nzogbia should of been brought on much earlier with a tired defence ......

The scoreline, statistics and our win ratio with him in the team show you're talking rubbish.

The scoreline, statistics and our win ratio show we have not beat them since 1984 at there place so i do not see your logic. Bowery looked tired well before he came off as he is obviously not match fit. When Nzogbia came on he livened our play up. I think he should of of come on 15 mins earlier and his introduction resulted in a victory ........

It's a pretty huge leap to give nzogbia credit for the victory to be honest.  When he came on he did exactly what was expected of him, after replacing another player who did exactly what was asked of him.  15minutes earlier and things may have been totally different.  We dominated Stoke at the britannia for most of the match, won 3-1 and didn't have anyone play badly for 90minutes but still people want to slag players off as not good enough, you're all insane.

Paul i am not slagging Bowery. I just said he is very average. He did what he was told to do and done ok. I am merely saying i thought Zoggy should of come on earlier as i thought Bowery was tiring. I thought the whole team put in a great shift and every one of them deserves massive praise including Bowery .......

To me calling a player very average after 2 starts (both games we've won) is a very tame form of slagging him off.  It's all about how it reads.  For example:

Nothing spectacular so far but has done the job asked of him whenever he's been involved.  He did tire a lot though (probably because he hasn't played much) and was sruggling with the pace by the time he came off.

Is virtually the same as you wrote without the negative 'vibe'.  That's what I'm getting at, far too many people on here are scared to have anything positive to say so even when we should be happy there's people saying Lambert got the tactics wrong and that we were lucky that Lowton scored a wonder strike to save the game.  That's why I said you're all insane, it was a general comment to my thoughts on the majority of people on here at the moment, although opinions do seem to be turning a bit now.

[SoccerHQ]

N'zog has been much improved since the new year, I thought he should've came on for Gabby tbh.

That said he was messing around with the ball and was disposesed which lead to the Stoke free kick that Jerome comcially smashed into Fenton at 1-1.

[neo_Villan]

N'Zogbia is (and will continue to be) the sort of inconsistant player who will play well if he feels like it. Will never be the type to give 100% week in, week out.

[eastie]

Paul Lambert has urged Jordan Bowery to build on his encouraging display against Stoke after hailing the forward's potential.

Bowery was handed a surprise start - only his third since joining from Chesterfield in August - in last Saturday's 3-1 win at the Britannia Stadium.

And the 21-year-old repaid Lambert's faith by producing a lively performance.

As well as playing a big part in the build-up to Gabby Agbonlahor's opening goal, he went close with two opportunities of his own.

In the first half Bowery brushed the side-netting with a 25-yard shot and after the break he forced Stoke goalkeeper Asmir Begovic into a fine near-post save.

Lambert was impressed with Bowery's efforts on the right hand side of Villa's four-pronged attack.

"I get great satisfaction seeing footballers doing well, it's never about myself," said the Villa boss.

"Jordan was excellent at Stoke. He hasn't played for a long time. He's a young lad, but he's another one who has got a lot of potential.

"I thought he was outstanding on the right side for us. He did brilliantly for the first goal with Matty Lowton. His general performance was excellent.

"He was a threat during the time he was on and one bit of skill was outstanding."

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

N'Zogbia is (and will continue to be) the sort of inconsistant player who will play well if he feels like it. Will never be the type to give 100% week in, week out.

Whilst that would be the general consensus, since the team in general has picked up he's put in as much effort when he's been on the pitch as any other player. He's put more effort into his playing time of late than he had in the whole of the previous season and a bit.

I like him. He's probably the only sort of player like that we have. He wants to beat players, ok, it doesn't always come off, but he's probably the only player at the club who can do it.

[Clampy]

N'Zogbia is (and will continue to be) the sort of inconsistant player who will play well if he feels like it. Will never be the type to give 100% week in, week out.

Whilst that would be the general consensus, since the team in general has picked up he's put in as much effort when he's been on the pitch as any other player. He's put more effort into his playing time of late than he had in the whole of the previous season and a bit.

Bearing in mind how much he's earning, effort is what he should be putting in.

He'd be a much better player if he looked up and passed the ball rather than try and take on two players and fail. Thinking about it, i can't remember the last time he set up a goal. There's definatley a quality player there but he's taking his time showing it.

[paul_e]

N'Zogbia is (and will continue to be) the sort of inconsistant player who will play well if he feels like it. Will never be the type to give 100% week in, week out.

Whilst that would be the general consensus, since the team in general has picked up he's put in as much effort when he's been on the pitch as any other player. He's put more effort into his playing time of late than he had in the whole of the previous season and a bit.

I like him. He's probably the only sort of player like that we have. He wants to beat players, ok, it doesn't always come off, but he's probably the only player at the club who can do it.

Worth noting that, despite him playing well, since he was dropped we've won 3 in 4.  That's the crux for me, I don't think nzogbia makes us a better team, even when he's playing well.

[Mister E]

N'Zogbia is (and will continue to be) the sort of inconsistant player who will play well if he feels like it. Will never be the type to give 100% week in, week out.

Whilst that would be the general consensus, since the team in general has picked up he's put in as much effort when he's been on the pitch as any other player. He's put more effort into his playing time of late than he had in the whole of the previous season and a bit.

I like him. He's probably the only sort of player like that we have. He wants to beat players, ok, it doesn't always come off, but he's probably the only player at the club who can do it.

Well, I'm not a fan of Charles. He's only ever been consistent for one half-season at Wigan.
He was very in-and-out at Barcodes and has not perormed as a senior / expensive player for us.
Maybe he will next season ...

... but then, maybe he won't.

I'd be looking to offload.

[peter w]

I'd keep N'Zogbia. Watch how great he is in the final year of his contract.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

N'Zogbia is (and will continue to be) the sort of inconsistant player who will play well if he feels like it. Will never be the type to give 100% week in, week out.

Whilst that would be the general consensus, since the team in general has picked up he's put in as much effort when he's been on the pitch as any other player. He's put more effort into his playing time of late than he had in the whole of the previous season and a bit.

I like him. He's probably the only sort of player like that we have. He wants to beat players, ok, it doesn't always come off, but he's probably the only player at the club who can do it.

Worth noting that, despite him playing well, since he was dropped we've won 3 in 4.  That's the crux for me, I don't think nzogbia makes us a better team, even when he's playing well.

You could also argue that Delph missed two of those games, and he's, arguably, been our best player of late.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's a world beater, and I probably wouldn't start him at the moment, but there's a good player in there I think and would keep him.

[eastie]

I'd keep N'Zogbia. Watch how great he is in the final year of his contract.

A useful option from the bench but really he should and could be so much more than that.

[SoccerHQ]

Joined Rotherham.

Tried his best but what a bizarre signing.

[RussellC]

Joined Rotherham.

Tried his best but what a bizarre signing.

Rotherham? He wasn't great but I thought there'd be bigger clubs than that in for him. Did we get a fee??