Jordan Bowery

[chrisf]

I've been watching Villa since I was 4 (45 years) and can only remember one game in isolation where tactics were a clear deciding factor in a match and that was BFR using Dalian out wide in the League Cup Final.

Ahh. OK. This thread makes more sense with this bit of information.

[pestria]

So you'd like one of our players hung to death? What a lovely person you are. No wonder you don't understand the concept of tactics.

I have more understanding of tactics than you have of sarcastic black humour.

[PeterWithesShin]

So you'd like one of our players hung to death? What a lovely person you are. No wonder you don't understand the concept of tactics.

I have more understanding of tactics than you have of sarcastic black humour.

No you don't. And it has to be funny to be considered humour.

[pestria]

I've been watching Villa since I was 4 (45 years) and can only remember one game in isolation where tactics were a clear deciding factor in a match and that was BFR using Dalian out wide in the League Cup Final.

Ahh. OK. This thread makes more sense with this bit of information.

Enlighten me then  - I'm genuinely interested.

[pestria]

So you'd like one of our players hung to death? What a lovely person you are. No wonder you don't understand the concept of tactics.

I have more understanding of tactics than you have of sarcastic black humour.

No you don't.

I'm still waiting to hear of why withdrawing Bowery somehow supported his initial selection and won the two games you mentioned.

[pestria]

I've been watching Villa since I was 4 (45 years) and can only remember one game in isolation where tactics were a clear deciding factor in a match and that was BFR using Dalian out wide in the League Cup Final.

Ahh. OK. This thread makes more sense with this bit of information.

Enlighten me then  - I'm genuinely interested.

Actually - have this for free on me - Paul Birch man marking Lothar Matthaus vs. Inter Milan at home in 91(?)

[not3bad]

Imagine if we'd lost both games Bowery had started. He'd be hanging from the North Stand by now.

we can but hope.

A wonderful touch of gentle ironic humour to lighten up my evening.  I hope you come up with a joke about someone getting shot next.

[chrisf]

I've been watching Villa since I was 4 (45 years) and can only remember one game in isolation where tactics were a clear deciding factor in a match and that was BFR using Dalian out wide in the League Cup Final.

Ahh. OK. This thread makes more sense with this bit of information.

Enlighten me then  - I'm genuinely interested.

Just that, you know, tactics quite often affect the outcome of a match? Like ... er ... yesterday?
You can never prove it but most people think it's probably the case.

[PeterWithesShin]

To be honest it's pretty pointless trying explain it when you seem to struggle with the basic concept of tactics and how they are implemented in different ways. And sorry if that sounds condescending but I can't think of any other way of putting it.

[MoetVillan]

I watched him yesterday, and thought he looked young and nervous, touch let him down a few times, normally at pace.  He worked and tracked back hard, I think if a touch or two had gone better, he would have settled.  Tough team to play against for a start, Wet Spam were poor yesterday, but in the first half, smotheringly tight on most balls. (oo-er).  I hope he steps up, as I liked the attitude

[Dante Lavelli]

I watched him yesterday, and thought he looked young and nervous, touch let him down a few times, normally at pace.  He worked and tracked back hard, I think if a touch or two had gone better, he would have settled.  Tough team to play against for a start, Wet Spam were poor yesterday, but in the first half, smotheringly tight on most balls. (oo-er).  I hope he steps up, as I liked the attitude

That's exactly how I saw it.  I remember one occasion where there was acres of space opened where he could have dribbled into the box but he paused and the moment was gone.  Had he got a lucky break there it could have really boosted his confidence.

[pestria]

I've been watching Villa since I was 4 (45 years) and can only remember one game in isolation where tactics were a clear deciding factor in a match and that was BFR using Dalian out wide in the League Cup Final.

Ahh. OK. This thread makes more sense with this bit of information.

Enlighten me then  - I'm genuinely interested.

Just that, you know, tactics quite often affect the outcome of a match? Like ... er ... yesterday?
You can never prove it but most people think it's probably the case.

Tactics yesterday?  We took off an ineffective player and replaced him with someone we *hoped* would be better.  I don't call that tactics - that's common sense.   if I was playing someone £3m a year then that's the least I would expect.

Are you going to actually come up with any examples of tactical nous or just tell me about subs?

[pestria]

To be honest it's pretty pointless trying explain it when you seem to struggle with the basic concept of tactics and how they are implemented in different ways. And sorry if that sounds condescending but I can't think of any other way of putting it.

Go on please try Sir, I'm so eager to learn from a master.   

[Chrisupnorth]

Spot on.

[dave.woodhall]

How about, we started with a player to help deal with West Ham's physical threat and when we saw that off we put one on to help us win the game?