Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Post-Match Thread

[Olof's Beard]

It has just been pointed out to me that we have conceded as many goals in the last three games as we have scored all season.  What a cheery thought.

[rob_bridge]

We were and are rubbish at the moment. No disguising.

Obviously we could chose to replace Lambert and have useless applicants like Phil Brown, Roy Keane, Paul Ince, Paul Faulkner replace him.

Or we can hope that in January we sign players who can keep us in the League.

A club like ours has been deteriorating for nearly 3 years and now we are in cardiac arrest.

[Chipsticks]

Sacking Lambert would only set us back even further. We need to back him and trust his vision.

I'd rather be on a rickety ship with the man who built it than a modern cruise-liner captained by a passenger.

[BC54 VFC]

The last time we had three consecutive league results as bad as this last week was in the 1935-36 season. We lost 5-0 away at Man City, followed by the famous (Ted Drake) 7-1 defeat at home to Arsenal followed by a 5-1 defeat at Blackburn, all in December 1935, the aggregate being for 2, against 17, i.e. an equivalent goal difference of minus 15. We were relegated to Division Two at the end of that season! 

[BegbieAV]

We are doomed accept it we will be playing Barnsley next season.

[saunders_heroes]

This can still be turned around if Lerner pulls his finger out and opens his damn wallet.

[kippaxvilla2]

Lerner needs to realise that the only way his fantasy about us being self supporting coming true is if we stay in this league for the extra large TV deal next season.

Right now, it isn't looking too promising.

I appreciate we have an injury crisis, but really, it was never going to take much in terms of injuries for this squad to be down to the absolute bare bones, and that's what we've seen today and in recent games.

Experience needed in January, and lots of it.

Throwing more lower league, low wages players at this is not going to solve anything.

Paulie, judging by Lamberts interview with Pat Murphy after the game he hasn't any intention on setting his sights on experienced players.  For that he must carry the can along with the young players he has bought but are clearly (at best) not ready for this league.  How anyone can say that Hutton, Warnock, Nzogbia(when fit) Bent(when fit) are not worthy of a place in THIS starting line up is beyond me.  I went down today and once the first goal went in, at no stage was I confident Villa would get back in the game.  I look at the starting line up today versus the one that went down in 1987 and I am bound to say this is a worse team.

From the outside looking in, it seems to me that Lambert has alienated the so called senior players and the young players, whilst standing together, have hit the buffers and there is no on there to help them out.  I cannot offer any other sane explanation, no doubt one of you wise owls will....

This has all the hallmarks of 86-87 about it.  Started off shit, went on an okish run (after McNeil's appointment) then bombed totally from around December onwards.  I am banking on Mr Lerner seeing sense.

[tomd2103]

We are doomed accept it we will be playing Barnsley next season.

They are currently bottom of the Championship so we might be spared that particular indignation.   

[Yossarian]

When you're done with the razor blades it's my turn. Otherwise I'll have to go find the hose to attach to the exhaust of the car which is going to be a bit of a fag at this time of the year, everything just got piled into a corner at the end of the summer.

[JD]

A shambles, but a predicted loss given the players out (not that it makes it any easier and any less upsetting/soul destroying).

We need to strengthen the squad quickly otherwise we are on the way down.

We can turn this round, but it's up to Lerner and Lambert to get players in who can help get us out of this mess (and quickly).

[David_Nab]

Lambert is saying things take time yet he went headfirst into ripping into the squad and signing 7 or so players to rebuild the squad.Right now it looks like a slower course of action would have been better.In his defence the injuries have not helped

[villan from luton]

Lambert is saying things take time yet he went headfirst into ripping into the squad and signing 7 or so players to rebuild the squad.Right now it looks like a slower course of action would have been better.In his defence the injuries have not helped

Yes, ripping into the squad full of what most of us consider overpaid, underperforming tossers who dont deserve to wear the shirt. What slower course of action would you suggest, James Collins must have more assists for opposition goals than any Villa player has for actual goals this season. Warnock slagged the club off and his attitude had changed from when he signed, Hutton was shite, what do you reckon?

[David_Nab]

Lambert is saying things take time yet he went headfirst into ripping into the squad and signing 7 or so players to rebuild the squad.Right now it looks like a slower course of action would have been better.In his defence the injuries have not helped

Yes, ripping into the squad full of what most of us consider overpaid, underperforming tossers who dont deserve to wear the shirt. What slower course of action would you suggest, James Collins must have more assists for opposition goals than any Villa player has for actual goals this season. Warnock slagged the club off and his attitude had changed from when he signed, Hutton was shite, what do you reckon?

Ok perhaps I worded it wrong he ripped the squad up and replaced it with potential no player with Prem league experience.Coming up with Norwich with a team on a high and who had played together for a while is one thing but he had decided to recruit players like he did there and assemble them together and expect it to work.A few older heads were and are needed , though perhaps he knew this as he did try and get Dempsey

[villan1975]

My first visit up to the Park this season and all I can say is thank the baby Jevus I don't have

to watch that every week. Sorry but Lambert is proving to be a very poor manager. The team is

set up so poorly it is embarrassing. If he cannot see how open and porous we are after the last

3 games he needs to go. As much of a fool as Lerner is he didn't set up the formation tonight

and do nothing to tactically alter it. We are dead men walking. On the plus side had a good day on the pop

and the only let down was the shit football.

[David_Nab]

At moment the tactic seems to be stick an extra man in defence to stops goals ..and that has backfired..