Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Post-Match Thread

[damon loves JT]

After the Liverpool game what gave me most hope was the belief that we'd find it easier to sign players in January. They would see us moving in the right direction and feel they were buying into a good thing.

Now it is going to be hard to persuade anyone to come. They will ask for silly money they know we can't afford, and then move to clubs like Fulham and West Brom and Swansea for lower wages.

Few players of real quality will sign up to a fight at the bottom of the table which could damage their reputations irreparably.

I haven't felt this low about the Villa since the Bolton game last season.

[olaftab]

Live text commentary as Arsenal beat Newcastle 7-3 while there are wins for Manchester United and City, but Aston Villa are thrashed at home.

Even the BBC sport website call it a thrashing, we are a joke at the moment

Oh we are definitely darling of all news bulletins. Whilst driving around post match for couple of hours I listened to most of it with opening comments like "Thrashed at home" "Once again lost' " have conceded 15 in 3 games" "are in free fall" etc etc

[silhillvilla]

Scoring goals has been our problem since lambert arrived so what did he do ? Freeze bent out ?? Madness
We have scored 1 in our last 5 PL games FFS !!

Was Liverpool all a dream then?

Sorry I meant our last 5 home PL games

[ormskirkvillan]

I live just outside Manchester, I've got a 4 month old son who I dreamt of taking down to Villa Park. He's got the kit and I've been singing Villa songs to him, he's even sat watching the matches with me on TV. Really though what chance have I got, he's not going to grow up in Birmingham so why would he choose us when he could pick any number of big successful clubs? Randy please open your cheque book and bring this great club back to life before my son asks for a Man Utd shirt.

[BC54 VFC]

Can anyone confirm Mr Lerner was actually at the game today? Doug was of course but I have been talking to someone who sits not far away from the Directors box and he didnt spot him.

His Dassault Falcon landed at Birmingham Airport at 7.15 on Thursday morning and has not yet left so it's safe to assume that he was there; a very rare occurrence this season.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Can anyone confirm Mr Lerner was actually at the game today? Doug was of course but I have been talking to someone who sits not far away from the Directors box and he didnt spot him.

His Dassault Falcon landed at Birmingham Airport at 7.15

I always assumed he travelled over in one of these, Mr Burns style.

[ROBBO]

Lambert has done everything supporters were asking to be done last season, he has bought from abroad (Benteke, Vlar and Kea)
i would suggest two out of the three were good buys, he has bought promising players from lower divisions as most were calling for and getting rid of the high earning wankers (still two or three to go). The problem has not been caused by Lambert it has been caused by Lerner by selling all the quality players and not financing adequate replacements, he thought that we could get by using academy players, and this is where our problems started. I think we all understand better the battle MCcleish had, yes he is a crap manager but with an owner like Lerner even SAF would battle relegation.We expected our young players to improve with first team action when the opposite occurred and they were, and are ,being shown as not good enough. This is the real problem that Lambert faces now replacing the home grown players that are plainly not good enough, they need to be shipped out, i would keep Clark,Baker and Weiman all the rest won't make it so get rid. I'm positive we will see three or four new players in January i refuse to believe anyone would be dumb enough not to strengthen the squad.

[Ron Manager]

Can anyone confirm Mr Lerner was actually at the game today? Doug was of course but I have been talking to someone who sits not far away from the Directors box and he didnt spot him.
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His Dassault Falcon landed at Birmingham Airport at 7.15 on Thursday morning and has not yet left so it's safe to assume that he was there; a very rare occurrence this season.

Right thats that sorted out.and there's going to be a meeting tommorow it would seem.Assuming Mr Lerner appears to be interested in the club what action will he take? Most of us would like Paul Lambert to stay although he hasnt done anything to justify his reputation as some kind of tactical genius with modern ideas.

A big call for Randy.Lets hope he gets it right and we begin to move forward because he will lose a lot of his money if we continue to perform as we have done in the last few games.

[Chris Jameson]

I almost miss Emile Heskey.

My other half is from a family of Wigan supporters, the pitying looks I've been getting are what really hurt.

[clash city rocker]

Well my missus has just said to me [I think in an attempt to cheer me up] ."Well it could have been worse today. You could have lost 3-0 to Birmingham City".
I couldn't speak mainly because i didn't know what to say !!

[Pat McMahon]

Sorry Leeg.   I have to bring some level of normality to myself.  I am in a permanent rage with everybody and everything.   I shouted at the poor sod who sits in front of me and shook him by the lapel because he has a funny voice.   I am going to do something less stressful with my free time for a while like collecting Eddie Stobart lorry numbers.

You're not the only one.  There were some pretty ugly quarrels in the Upper Holte today - including one where a bloke in front of me nearly came to blows with a guy in the row behind me. People are getting very frayed at the edges.

I may have been near you then because something similar happened near me in K5. The younger bloke was having a pop at the older bloke for moaning and not supporting the team.

I honestly don't know where to start after this week. The players seem to have no shape, no confidence and little desire ( I am sure they do have the desire but it just ain't that clear). I thought we were outnumbered in midfield from the beginning today and Wigan absolutely took the piss. 3-0 was a fair score.

For the first time I  am doubting Lambert. Hammerings from Chelsea, Spurs, Man City, Southampton, Everton and Wigan mean we have an awful goal difference and take a real beating every third game. That is really worrying.

I haven't felt this bad since the 1986-87 season.

[TaxDodger]

I hate football.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Lambert has done everything supporters were asking to be done last season, he has bought from abroad (Benteke, Vlar and Kea)

He also inherited the one actual goalscorer we've had in decades and decided he didn't need him. This despite this so called 'unsuitable new system' clearly not working and struggling to score goals or win games. For that alone he got off to a shakey start with me.

You play your best players, ones that can win you games. It's basic common sense. I sense Lambert was trying (and obviously failed) to prove he knew best.

[FrankyH]

I live just outside Manchester, I've got a 4 month old son who I dreamt of taking down to Villa Park. He's got the kit and I've been singing Villa songs to him, he's even sat watching the matches with me on TV. Really though what chance have I got, he's not going to grow up in Birmingham so why would he choose us when he could pick any number of big successful clubs? Randy please open your cheque book and bring this great club back to life before my son asks for a Man Utd shirt.

You have every chance to bring him up an Aston Villa supporter regardless of how shit we may be.Why would he choose Villa? Probably the same reason as alot of us did, their Dad,Mom,Grandparents,Brother,Sister,Uncle,Aunty,Friend a Friend's Dad take your pick we are all indebted.

[pauliewalnuts]

Lambert has done everything supporters were asking to be done last season, he has bought from abroad (Benteke, Vlar and Kea)

He also inherited the one actual goalscorer we've had in decades and decided he didn't need him. This despite this so called 'unsuitable new system' clearly not working and struggling to score goals or win games. For that alone he got off to a shakey start with me.

and two weeks ago he was getting roundly lauded for the decision.