Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Post-Match Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Lerner sort this club out.

Really?  You'd trust him to do that? 
He's proven over the last 3 years he can't be trusted, he hasn't got a clue about running a football club.

Not really, but he's the owner we've got absolutely no choice.

[andyh]

See, I really don't get this new approach, long term plan thing.
Anyone of us could have taken the villa job in the summer, sold some players, and with help, bought lower league or cheap foreign players.
Surely, the trick then is to get those players to play together, be organised and disciplined and then play the game as you instruct.
It seems PL has done the first bit, but has very little or no ability is the second part. There comes a time when we have to say that he is fully culpable for the way things are going and that he cannot hide behind injuries.
One this is for sure, he cannot hide behind inexperienced players, that's 100% his fault.

[NeilH]

Lerner sort this club out.

Really?  You'd trust him to do that? 
He's proven over the last 3 years he can't be trusted, he hasn't got a clue about running a football club.

It's this that really worries me. I'm convinced that the school of thought is still along the lines of "we carry on trying to emulate Ajax." It's flawed, it was always flawed and unless this policy is altered then we are on a very quick downward trajectory.

[Irish villain]

We can't sack Lambert. It may not be delivering anything, but his plan is the only concrete thing we have had to go on since 2010

What exactly is this plan ?

To me it looks as though whoever is the Aston Villa manager  in the current climate has to operate within a budget and keep wages low. This means you are relying on the manager to buy in the type of players we have, be able to impose his will on them, and mould them into something that can stay in the league.

We have had an awful lot of chopping and changing at Villa over the past few years. Lambert seems keen to build a hard-working, pressing game with neat passing (bear with me, not much in evidence lately). We have seen it work a few times this season but it won't work every week because fundamentally the players aren't that good. If they were, they'd be on higher wages somewhere else, wouldn't they?

Lerner's plan is the problem, not Lambert's.

[Tuscans]

I've watched every game this season and gradually they are being told to close down all over the pitch quickly but they do it with so much unintelligence its unreal. There is absolutely no shape to this team because they chase all over the place being dragged out of position. The back 5 have been doing this since they changed formation and its absolutely cringe worthy watching £30,000 a week plus players do this.

[wombat]

Earliest I have ever left a football match... 52 minutes and 16 seconds. I'm not proud of it, but I honestly couldn't take anymore.

A free limousine full of hot chicks, free booze and a free ticket to the Ipswich game wouldn't get me there such is my state of my mind with the shambles at the moment.

[The Situation]

I really hope he ends the experiment with this formation which has been disasterous last 3 games.

[wookster]

Time for the tin hats to be got out and a meting of the VP war cabinet.

Learner, Faulknerand Lambert have to decide on what direction this club is going and to make some drastic decisions.

It cant be coincidence that the last 3 managers have shed all the talent at the club and we have resorted to playing what is in reality a reserve team every Saturday.

If Randy wants to stay as a PL chairman hes got to go get some serious backbone for this place.

[Stu]

More worryingly though. Lambert has just been on the radio and said 'IF' he brings anyone else into the club in Jan it will only be lower league players as that's all the funding he's been given

If that's true then it's evident that Randy has given up. In which case, he should sell. We'll go down without proper investment, he must be able to see that.

[Brian Taylor]

We can't sack Lambert. It may not be delivering anything, but his plan is the only concrete thing we have had to go on since 2010

Irony? The bit between Tinny and Brassy eh?

What exactly is this plan ?

Its a cunning plan ala baldrick.

[Rigadon]

More worryingly though. Lambert has just been on the radio and said 'IF' he brings anyone else into the club in Jan it will only be lower league players as that's all the funding he's been given

If that's true then it's evident that Randy has given up. In which case, he should sell. We'll go down without proper investment, he must be able to see that.

Nobody would buy the club at the moment though.  Too risky.

[saunders_heroes]

Time for the tin hats to be got out and a meting of the VP war cabinet.

Learner, Faulknerand Lambert have to decide on what direction this club is going and to make some drastic decisions.

It cant be coincidence that the last 3 managers have shed all the talent at the club and we have resorted to playing what is in reality a reserve team every Saturday.

If Randy wants to stay as a PL chairman hes got to go get some serious backbone for this place.

Every good player we've had at the club is either gone or is out of the team waiting to be shipped out. Lerner only wants players who earn a pittance. That's why we shop in the lower leagues these days. The result of this madness - relegation.

Lerner is an incompetent fool. A disgrace to Aston Villa.

[achilles]

Best price for Villa to get relegated is 15/8, good grief how we have fallen!

[wookster]

Time for the tin hats to be got out and a meting of the VP war cabinet.

Learner, Faulknerand Lambert have to decide on what direction this club is going and to make some drastic decisions.

It cant be coincidence that the last 3 managers have shed all the talent at the club and we have resorted to playing what is in reality a reserve team every Saturday.

If Randy wants to stay as a PL chairman hes got to go get some serious backbone for this place.

Every good player we've had at the club is either gone or is out of the team waiting to be shipped out. Lerner only wants players who earn a pittance. That's why we shop in the lower leagues these days. The result of this madness - relegation.

Lerner is an incompetent fool. A disgrace to Aston Villa.

Im starting to feel sorry for Mcliesh

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

What if we get battered by Swans?

Nasty vicious buggers. I always try and keep a good distance from them and give them plenty of space. I would guess our players will be doing that on New Years Day.