Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Post-Match Thread

[TonyD]

It's not all bad.  We are showing signs of improving.   Lost by only 3.  Not 4 or 8.

That was my thought as well. When we play Southampton we might be able to keep a clean sheet again.

I was kidding.

[JUAN PABLO]

A ex-Chesterfield player was our MOM

we have fallen on our claret and blue sword today

[onje_villa]

12 of those 15 goals have been conceded with Westwood on the bench.

3-5-2 isn't working.
Dropping or subbing Westwood isn't working.
Playing various midfields without a dominant figure isn't working.
A midfield who consistently blast the ball backwards at defenders isn't working.
Resorting to hoofing it in the vague direction of Benteke isn't working.
Constantly giving the ball away at our own throw-ins isn't helping.

This is the point where I no longer think that Lambert is going to put it right. But most depressingly, I can't think of anyone I'd rather bring in.

That's pretty much it.

[Olof's Beard]

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Ignoring the goal difference we are no better off than where I thought we would be after the last 4 games except we beat Liverpool but lost to Wigan.

I think it's fair to say that our confidence might be slightly affected though.

[andyh]

While some claim they're seeing a bigger picture, some claim they're seeing improvements, and some claim we're going in the right direction. I'm just seeing a truly awful team.

Not just of late, ALL season. People keep banging on 'What about Norwich away, what about Liverpool away ?'. WHAT ABOUT THEM ?. In either game we could've conceeded numerous goals, but we won both. Were they the norm or the exceptions ?. Before those we had truly wretched performances against QPR, Reading and Stoke. Those three performances would've been booed out the city under McLeish last season. This season I was assured they were great as we didn't lose.

Apparently a couple of sideways passes on the floor every now and again means we're now 'playing football'. Not to me it doesn't. Any team in the world will allow you to pass the ball aimlessly around the middle third where you have no chance of hurting them.

At Forest pre season, I was concerned. At West Ham on the opening day I was dejected. Ever since i've been watching aimless football, with no passion or style. Yet i've almost been convinced my own eyes need testing as i keep reading others posting things about my club that i'm clearly not seeing myself. I know we all see things differently, but i'm surprised how differently.

To sum up, it's abysmal. I've got less confidence than I had last season and that's saying something.

If Lambert offered his resignation tonight i'd be delighted. If Lerner announced he's put the club up for sale i'd be even happier. Neither are ever going to take this club forward. I've seen NOTHING from Lambert's 'revolution' to suggest anything other than more of the same is to come.

Someone text me today 'we've got 10 players out'. I thought yes, but of those he'd probably only have picked Gabby and Vlaar. Hardly world beaters.

I was told 'we need experience'. I thought, funny that. When he could pick the likes of Bent, N'Zogbia, Given he chose not to. He also farmed out (the admittedly pretty useless, but experienced) Hutton & Warnock without having any cover for them.

It was an appointment most of us were ok with, but it's clearly not working at all. I'm not seeing any tactical nous, and i'm not seeing any man management either. What are Lambert's actual qualities ?

That's me. You don't have to agree.

I agree mate very well put.

[Jimbo]

As SLB said, the Liverpool game could easily have seen Villa down by a few goals, so we could now be looking at four straight thrashings.

We will be after new year's day.

[Somniloquism]

It's not all bad.  We are showing signs of improving.   Lost by only 3.  Not 4 or 8.

That was my thought as well. When we play Southampton we might be able to keep a clean sheet again.

I was kidding.

So was I, kind of.

[devilla]

Lambert on final score now

[Goldie.7]

6 wins all year in the league ..6 fucking wins in 12 months !!!
Sack Lambert ..who the fuck else could we get in now ...

I wonder what Di Matteo's up to..

That's not a bad shout till the end of the season. Sometimes you have to make drastic decisions this is the time to do it.

[Irish villain]

Lambert on final score now

What did he say?

[Goldie.7]

Lambert on final score now

No point listening he'll only say 'I thought we played quite well' his usual load of ****

[Olof's Beard]

Lambert on final score now

Saying nothing of particular interest.  No "we go again" mind.

[Apyadg]

Lambert on final score now

What did he say?

There wasn't an interpretor.

[Somniloquism]

6 wins all year in the league ..6 fucking wins in 12 months !!!
Sack Lambert ..who the fuck else could we get in now ...

I wonder what Di Matteo's up to..

That is not a bad shout till the end of the season. Sometimes you have to make drastic decisions this is the time to do it.

As I mentioned before, what could he (or any manager) do now? Unless RDM could persuade Cech, Fat Frank, John Terry and Droghba to come here as they are the reasons he had such a successful finish last season. Plus he will want to play passing football and you can see that our players do not know what that is.

[Five Villa Tattoos]

What we need is a 6 foot 5, built like a brick shitehouse midfielder who gets stuck in. Our midfield is too lightweight. A leader at the back wouldn't do any harm  either.