Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Post-Match Thread

[JUAN PABLO]

whens Bent fit?      we need him


mind I doubt Van persie would score with our creativity

[Singapore Villa]

We look physically weak throughout the team with the exception of Benteke.  How many times today did we lose 50/50 challenges and get outmuscled by their players.  Holman, Bannan and Ireland in midfield is so powder puff it is untrue.  Ireland looks to be going through the motions and we need rid of him pronto.  Holman is like a poor man's Reo Coker in that he huffs and he puffs, but have you ever seen a players with such a poor first touch?  All of their goals were avoidable.  The first was shocking marking from a corner, for the second our defence just parted like the red sea and for the third Lowton had to be firm in the tackle and deal with it.  The only positive was Bowery who I thought had a decent 30mins when he came on.  I am stunned.  Massive changes needed or we are going down. 

[johncvilla88]

We have won 8 games under Lambert so far and only won 9 under McCleish all season! In Lambert I still trust!

[exigo]

12 of those 15 goals have been conceded with Westwood on the bench.

3-5-2 isn't working.
Dropping or subbing Westwood isn't working.
Playing various midfields without a dominant figure isn't working.
A midfield who consistently blast the ball backwards at defenders isn't working.
Resorting to hoofing it in the vague direction of Benteke isn't working.
Constantly giving the ball away at our own throw-ins isn't helping.

This is the point where I no longer think that Lambert is going to put it right. But most depressingly, I can't think of anyone I'd rather bring in.

[PaulWinch again]

Our team also looks massively weak and unfit, we can never last the physical pace.

[ez]

With the experienced players unavailable there was no hiding place for the new signings. They had to step up but didn't.

[N'Zimidy]

Can we recall the Fonz from blackpool?

Not sure he's the answer, we need a centre half (Lescott)and two midfield monsters (Parker/Barton types)

We need wingers. We can't play through the middle of the park with Holman, Ireland, Bannan, Weimann and Benteke. There's no width and any decent side will just close us down and pack the middle of the park. Then counter down the sides where we get absolutely destroyed.

[PaulWinch again]

Why the fuck wasn't Westwood playing today? That midfield three was awfully unbalanced.

[sirlordbaltimore]

While some claim they're seeing a bigger picture, some claim they're seeing improvements, and some claim we're going in the right direction. I'm just seeing a truly awful team.

Not just of late, ALL season. People keep banging on 'What about Norwich away, what about Liverpool away ?'. WHAT ABOUT THEM ?. In either game we could've conceeded numerous goals, but we won both. Were they the norm or the exceptions ?. Before those we had truly wretched performances against QPR, Reading and Stoke. Those three performances would've been booed out the city under McLeish last season. This season I was assured they were great as we didn't lose.

Apparently a couple of sideways passes on the floor every now and again means we're now 'playing football'. Not to me it doesn't. Any team in the world will allow you to pass the ball aimlessly around the middle third where you have no chance of hurting them.

At Forest pre season, I was concerned. At West Ham on the opening day I was dejected. Ever since i've been watching aimless football, with no passion or style. Yet i've almost been convinced my own eyes need testing as i keep reading others posting things about my club that i'm clearly not seeing myself. I know we all see things differently, but i'm surprised how differently.

To sum up, it's abysmal. I've got less confidence than I had last season and that's saying something.

If Lambert offered his resignation tonight i'd be delighted. If Lerner announced he's put the club up for sale i'd be even happier. Neither are ever going to take this club forward. I've seen NOTHING from Lambert's 'revolution' to suggest anything other than more of the same is to come.

Someone text me today 'we've got 10 players out'. I thought yes, but of those he'd probably only have picked Gabby and Vlaar. Hardly world beaters.

I was told 'we need experience'. I thought, funny that. When he could pick the likes of Bent, N'Zogbia, Given he chose not to. He also farmed out (the admittedly pretty useless, but experienced) Hutton & Warnock without having any cover for them.

It was an appointment most of us were ok with, but it's clearly not working at all. I'm not seeing any tactical nous, and i'm not seeing any man management either. What are Lambert's actual qualities ?

That's me. You don't have to agree.

[eastie]

We have won 8 games under Lambert so far and only won 9 under McCleish all season! In Lambert I trust still!

We are talking league games , not tranmere, Swindon, man city reserves and a Norwich team with 6 changes.

Four wins in 20 league games-appalling.

[Apyadg]

whens Bent fit?      we need him


mind I doubt Van persie would score with our creativity

You're right. Bent adds nothing to a team that's so shit the pitch may as well only have one penalty area.

[saunders_heroes]

This is easily the worst Villa team I've seen in 35+ years of supporting Villa. We've got relegation written all over us, but with serious money spent in January we could still turn it around.
Lerner has to bite the bullet and sign players worthy of AVFC. Anymore lower league fodder and we're gone.

[Rigadon]

While some claim they're seeing a bigger picture, some claim they're seeing improvements, and some claim we're going in the right direction. I'm just seeing a truly awful team.

Not just of late, ALL season. People keep banging on 'What about Norwich away, what about Liverpool away ?'. WHAT ABOUT THEM ?. In either game we could've conceeded numerous goals, but we won both. Were they the norm or the exceptions ?. Before those we had truly wretched performances against QPR, Reading and Stoke. Those three performances would've been booed out the city under McLeish last season. This season I was assured they were great as we didn't lose.

Apparently a couple of sideways passes on the floor every now and again means we're now 'playing football'. Not to me it doesn't. Any team in the world will allow you to pass the ball aimlessly around the middle third where you have no chance of hurting them.

At Forest pre season, I was concerned. At West Ham on the opening day I was dejected. Ever since i've been watching aimless football, with no passion or style. Yet i've almost been convinced my own eyes need testing as i keep reading others posting things about my club that i'm clearly not seeing myself. I know we all see things differently, but i'm surprised how differently.

To sum up, it's abysmal. I've got less confidence than I had last season and that's saying something.

If Lambert offered his resignation tonight i'd be delighted. If Lerner announced he's put the club up for sale i'd be even happier. Neither are ever going to take this club forward. I've seen NOTHING from Lambert's 'revolution' to suggest anything other than more of the same is to come.

Someone text me today 'we've got 10 players out'. I thought yes, but of those he'd probably only have picked Gabby and Vlaar. Hardly world beaters.

I was told 'we need experience'. I thought, funny that. When he could pick the likes of Bent, N'Zogbia, Given he chose not to. He also farmed out (the admittedly pretty useless, but experienced) Hutton & Warnock without having any cover for them.

It was an appointment most of us were ok with, but it's clearly not working at all. I'm not seeing any tactical nous, and i'm not seeing any man management either. What are Lambert's actual qualities ?

That's me. You don't have to agree.

I must say, I think sadly that's how I'm feeling this evening. 

[Goldie.7]

Very sad this evening, but trying not to over-react.

Just shows how important confidence is. That 8-0 totally stuffed ours. Same players we were all raving about being the future of the club are now "shit"? They've had a big set back, it will be difficult for them to dig themselves out of it though. Just a shame that our senior players are all injured (Gabby, Vlaar, Dunne), or disinterested (Ireland, Warnock).

40 fags a day Dunne that hasn't played all season. When he was fit he was shocking poor and we were calling for his head. That Dunne.

Gabby won't be missed if he never played for Villa again. A striker that doesn't score goals and can't cross. I'm not having a go but these players when we need to dig deep offer nothing!

[David_Nab]

6 wins all year in the league ..6 fucking wins in 12 months !!!
Sack Lambert ..who the fuck else could we get in now ...