Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[dave.woodhall]

Well the Chickens are coming home to roost in a rather spectacular way.  Play an academy side with a sprinkling of Championship players and the odd highly paid mercenary who doesn't give a shit against top quality, well drilled sides that are pushing for Champions League and you get absolutely humiliated.  And that's what we are right now.

Mr Lerner, we've all had you sussed for a couple of years now so how about we get through the january window with the last bit of investment you'll be required to put in, get us through to the end of the season and then you can cash in your chips when that new TV deal kicks in.  It'll be better for all of us that way.  Because let's face it, you've proven that you havn't a feckin clue what you're doing.

'We all' have, have we?

Well if you haven't i suggest you're in a massive minority, probably of one.

I doubt that very much indeed.

[OzVilla]

Fair enough, then lets hear the case for the defence of Mr Lerner and his stewardship over the last 2 years.

[bertlambshank]

Well the Chickens are coming home to roost in a rather spectacular way.  Play an academy side with a sprinkling of Championship players and the odd highly paid mercenary who doesn't give a shit against top quality, well drilled sides that are pushing for Champions League and you get absolutely humiliated.  And that's what we are right now.

Mr Lerner, we've all had you sussed for a couple of years now so how about we get through the january window with the last bit of investment you'll be required to put in, get us through to the end of the season and then you can cash in your chips when that new TV deal kicks in.  It'll be better for all of us that way.  Because let's face it, you've proven that you havn't a feckin clue what you're doing.

'We all' have, have we?

Well if you haven't i suggest you're in a massive minority, probably of one.

Not all of us,Randy has till the end of the season for me,it's about time he showed he is still interested in us.If he doesn't by then,feel free to talk for me.

[Risso]

Nobody would ever accuse you of not being fully behind Lerner, Dave.

[brian green]

This business of Lerner's girlfriend having a daughter who wants to get into Oxbridge comes as a bit of a surprise to me.   When my son met Randy in a London restaurant and chatted at length to him he was with a very beautiful eurasian girl in her early 20s.   Perhaps that was his girl friend's daughter.   I am on good terms with a number of the admission tutors at Cambo so I will keep you posted if she rocks up to the technical college in the fens.

[dave.woodhall]

Nobody would ever accuse you of not being fully behind Lerner, Dave.

Some of us can see a bit further than the end of our nose.

[Clark W Griswold]

5 at the back and 12-0 in the last 2 games. I think it tells us that our defenders are worse than ever.

[silhillvilla]

We are just a crap side. No need to over analyse.

[Stu]

Just watched the highlights on MOTD. The space the defence were allowing the Spurs forwards to run into was absolutely criminal. Not good enough, Lambert/Lerner/whoever, the team in the last two games has been so poor that it was like we're not competing in the same league as Chelsea and Spurs. The team is physically weak, unable to push Prem level players about, that coupled with their mental fragility has made us a walk over in the last two games. The tactics have also been terrible, and I question the subs as well today.

Merry Christmas, Villa. Thanks a lot.

[Rotterdam 82]

Nobody would ever accuse you of not being fully behind Lerner, Dave.

Some of us can see a bit further than the end of our nose.

So what is it that you actually see Dave?

At the moment all that I can see is a long hard slog and a very high possibility of relegation after all the early promise of Lerner's tenure.   

It's a genuine question from a life-long supporter who is really hurting at the moment.

[levico]

Wow. I was depressed after the match now reading this thread I'm far worse. The rumour of Lerner's apathy does tend to ring true and if so that puts us in a desperate situation. Relegation to the Championship is not the worst of our worries, a continual decline is. Couple this with Brian Green's very astute comments about Lambert's inability to motivate players and what a complete mess we are in.

[David_Nab]

Just watched the highlights on MOTD. The space the defence were allowing the Spurs forwards to run into was absolutely criminal. Not good enough, Lambert/Lerner/whoever, the team in the last two games has been so poor that it was like we're not competing in the same league as Chelsea and Spurs. The team is physically weak, unable to push Prem level players about, that coupled with their mental fragility has made us a walk over in the last two games. The tactics have also been terrible, and I question the subs as well today.

Merry Christmas, Villa. Thanks a lot.

Agreed about the physicality was the same at Chelsea

[Ads]

Are people really buying the idea that its motivation as to why we're falling short?

[bertlambshank]

It did make me laugh when we had a corner and only 3 players in the box.

[PaulWinch again]

This is the quote that worries me -

- "I have belief they will do it. They will give us everything again.'

Unfortunately their 'everything' just hasn't been anywhere near good enough the last two games. A lot of our problems have been self inflicted, constantly giving the ball away and just ambling around off the pace. The players need to concentrate, be a lot more tactically aware and apparently a lot fitter. They are lacking in all of those departments at the moment.