Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[MarkM]

First half our objective was don't concede.

When we then tried to open them up in the second half we played well for the first 8-9 minutes, then we conceded and just fell apart.

The last two games have been awful, and the results against Liverpool and Norwich look like the exception to the otherwise awful performances

[OzVilla]

Atleast Ellis still looks like he still gives a shit long after selling the club.  Lerner doesn't and he owns the joint.

[Pete3206]

Stephen Ireland - Why?

[eastie]

Who cares if Doug follows us home and away? So do I. What's the difference?

I have put money, however small, into the club and taken nothing tangible from it. We have been smashed over two games, is that the call for sense to leak from your head and the ok to look wistfully back as if Herbie was a good thing?

No it's stating the question does randy attend many games or care as much as he did a few years ago?
As oz says Ellis has long since sold up but still travels at his age, how often does Lerner?

[midnite]

Stephen Ireland - Why?

Thought he did quite well when he came on. Until Ireland and albrighton came on to the pitch, there was no supply to Benteke what so ever. At least when them two came on there was far more movement up front. Ireland did some lovely passes.

[Lobsterboy]

I see Stephen Ireland is once again coming in for a lot of stick this evening; same as he did after Chelsea. I can only presume this is because Darren Bent is injured and we need another scapegoat

The only moments of any real quality came from Ireland today but every time he put a decent ball in Benteke was offside!

It doesn't take a genius to work out the problem in the last two games has been the defending and Bennett, Lowton, Clark, Baker and Herd are in the main either not ready or simply not good enough for the highest level in my opinion.

I expected a positive reaction after the clubs record defeat but did not see anything remotely resembling one; totally unacceptable performance for the second game running

Merry Bastard Christmas...

[Legion]

Stephen Ireland - Why?

Thought he did quite well when he came on. Until Ireland and albrighton came on to the pitch, there was no supply to Benteke what so ever. At least when them two came on there was far more movement up front. Ireland did some lovely passes.

I thought this as well. Shame it only lasted for ten minutes or so.

[Ads]

An owner is only as good as his last tranafer window.

Doug turning up to games doesn't mean he gives a shit or know what day of the week it is. He was turning up to games while dismantling the European Cup winning side en route to relegation. Who gives a shit whether the owner turns up?

[russon]

The walking yellow card that is Fabian Delph showed us all why he should be nowhere near a Premiership club. Outclassed all game so he ends up taking a swipe at Bale and gets a yellow. He plays like I did when I was a kid - if I was getting the runaround I'd resort to cropper soccer too. By way of consolation for Villa's latest fiasco, at least our 'battling playmaker' is suspended for the next game.

[amfy]

I suppose that if Doug had stayed we could have at least gone down 5 years ago and got it over with! Anyone that wants to name another advantage other than a +1 on the attendance is seriously kidding themselves.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Boxing day ruined for my family as they had to endure a clearly deranged father screaming obscenities at the TV. Probably a good mental scar for their young minds there.

You are getting my kids psychoanalysis bills Lambert.

[oldham_villa]

It seems to me that his switch to 3 at the back was due to the centre half pairing of Baker and Clark were getting split far too frequently, so a 3 cut that out initially.

Unfortunately, teams have now weighed things up and have sussed us out to exploit the space behind the full backs. They are also pressing us more effectively when we try to play out from the back.

I also do not think we are putting enough effort into our performances - I watched Stoke put everything into their performance against Liverpool tonight and looked back to our half arsed closing down of Spurs.

Where we go from here, who knows. I am concerned at the space behind our fullbacks and also by our inability for midfielders to gamble and make runs into the box.

Wigan may be a good team for us to play this weekend, if only due to their commitment in pushing men forward. The way I feel at the moment, I fear they could also turn us over though. We need to get the crowd going so i'd put Bowery up front with Benteke - get those balls pumped in the box and get into 'em.

Nick

[Fernando Partridge]

Its poor and sad to see us lose 4-0 today. And esp after last match. That said we are against far stronger opponents. These teams on majority of days are better than us. They score goals! though we have a chance of redemption against wigan i dont like the way bale waltzed in scoring his goals. Far too easy. Too much time and space.   

[midnite]

Stephen Ireland - Why?

Thought he did quite well when he came on. Until Ireland and albrighton came on to the pitch, there was no supply to Benteke what so ever. At least when them two came on there was far more movement up front. Ireland did some lovely passes.

I thought this as well. Shame it only lasted for ten minutes or so.

Yeah, bloody spurs!!

I thought he was always looking for the ball. Getting into space and making the pass. Not Ireland's fault Benteke doesn't know how offside works or that the ball to him wasn't good enough in the first place. You could tell towards the end he was getting fed up but so were we all! He was at least trying to make things happen

Albrighton too for all the grief I've given him the last year and a half looked lively too.

We fell apart at the back due to herd and thd others getting pulled out of position too easily against a very good forward line up that spurs have

[dave.woodhall]

Well the Chickens are coming home to roost in a rather spectacular way.  Play an academy side with a sprinkling of Championship players and the odd highly paid mercenary who doesn't give a shit against top quality, well drilled sides that are pushing for Champions League and you get absolutely humiliated.  And that's what we are right now.

Mr Lerner, we've all had you sussed for a couple of years now so how about we get through the january window with the last bit of investment you'll be required to put in, get us through to the end of the season and then you can cash in your chips when that new TV deal kicks in.  It'll be better for all of us that way.  Because let's face it, you've proven that you havn't a feckin clue what you're doing.

'We all' have, have we?