Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[ChrissyPrice]

My worry is that we're not actually going to be getting anyone in January. Shipping goals like an under-10 team with low wages to boot hardly makes us the biggest draw.

I'm going to regret this when I've calmed down but if the club unveiled Fat Sam as our boss tomorrow I'd be pleased. Actually I'm beginning to regret it now.

[Goldie.7]

Guzan - solid, keep
Lowton ~ two years more experience needed
Bennett ~ three more years experience needed
Herd ~ never good enough go.
Clark ~ not a centre half, keep but in midfield.
Holman ~ a trier but not good enough I'm afraid ~ go.
Delph ~ never good enough. Go.
Albrighton ~ one season wonder, not good enough. Go.
Ireland.  Good enough, no heart. Keep on account of lack of other options.
El Ahmadi ~ not good enough. Go.
Benteke ~ good enough but not there yet. Keep.

Ireland good enough are you having a laugh.

He was extremely slow
Never made a tackle
Over hit the passes he made
Went missing a lot
He was the worst player by far today and he's getting paid the most!

[David_Nab]

Big Sam would have us safer than we are now IMO.

The argument is has Lambert got the potential to take us further than Sam would have.At moment we are more shocking than user TSM FFS..that takes some doing

[Summers]

On course for a cup final, recently beat Liverpool 3 - 1, had two bad days against quality sides after what was a good run.

Goal difference is shit, but we're okay. Need some reinforcements, a bit of experience and steel in the side in January please.

[Lamb_Stockmix]

Lambert isn't to blame.

[ozzjim]

Guzan - solid, keep
Lowton ~ two years more experience needed
Bennett ~ three more years experience needed
Herd ~ never good enough go.
Clark ~ not a centre half, keep but in midfield.
Holman ~ a trier but not good enough I'm afraid ~ go.
Delph ~ never good enough. Go.
Albrighton ~ one season wonder, not good enough. Go.
Ireland.  Good enough, no heart. Keep on account of lack of other options.
El Ahmadi ~ not good enough. Go.
Benteke ~ good enough but not there yet. Keep.

Ireland good enough are you having a laugh.

He was extremely slow
Never made a tackle
Over hit the passes he made
Went missing a lot
He was the worst player by far today and he's getting paid the most!

Agree completely

[levico]

Can't see any self respecting player wanting to join us in January, even on loan. We are now a laughing stock due to this pathetic ultimately doomed experiment and relegation is now a very real prospect.

[Jimbo]

Take comfort from the fact that every one of our players will feel just as bad as you do tonight, as they drive their Lamborghini's home to their mansions.

[ozzjim]

Can't see any self respecting player wanting to join us in January, even on loan. We are now a laughing stock due to this pathetic ultimately doomed experiment and relegation is now a very real prospect.

Were we a laughing stock 10 days ago after winning 3-1 at Liverpool and 4-1 at Norwich?

[Steve R]

Lambert has the same problem now that he had 5 months ago, a weak - bordering on feeble - midfield. If he solves that we can be a decent side.

It is no coincidence that the three strongest midfields in the league have handed us our arses on a plate.

To be fair, Delph did show glimpses today of the player he should have become by now. But Westwood - who looks a very good prospect - should be the only one not on the 'to be replaced' list. We need presence and the ability to keep the ball.

To add to the problem our defence has been all over the place. We really have missed Vlaar. Individually the players have good qualities. As a unit they have been all over the place.

[Olof's Beard]

Guzan - solid, keep
Lowton ~ two years more experience needed
Bennett ~ three more years experience needed
Herd ~ never good enough go.
Clark ~ not a centre half, keep but in midfield.
Holman ~ a trier but not good enough I'm afraid ~ go.
Delph ~ never good enough. Go.
Albrighton ~ one season wonder, not good enough. Go.
Ireland.  Good enough, no heart. Keep on account of lack of other options.
El Ahmadi ~ not good enough. Go.
Benteke ~ good enough but not there yet. Keep.

Ireland good enough are you having a laugh.

He was extremely slow
Never made a tackle
Over hit the passes he made
Went missing a lot
He was the worst player by far today and he's getting paid the most!

Agree completely

I don't.  I think he gets a massively raw deal, he provided the best moment of our admittedly pathetic performance even if Benteke ran offside for it and had a hand in most of our better moments.  He has not looked disinterested to me all season as some have suggested and I have seen interviews with other players who have said he is the best trainer down Bodymoor.

He definitely got frustrated today but he is that sort of players and he wasn't the only one.  Holman didn't stop trying which is admirable but he can barely trap a ball or make a five yard pass either.  We work hard in general but fans pay to see footballers as well and (for all it might say everything we need to know about the current predicament), Ireland is one of our better footballers.

[Ads]

Players will always come. Its not like we're adrift.

The lack of exprience and quality is telling. I'd take Vlaar in a wheelchair at the moment. But the way we collapse... Jesus.

We have to win on Saturday, no doubt about it, but January cannot come quickly enough. That midfield needs somebody who can get hold of the damn thing and dictate physically. We also need somebody who can create as we are woeful going forwards.

Too many of the kids aren't good enough. Where he was going for the fourth, god knows. Why we have that mincing chimp Bale so much room, again god knows.

Win Saturday, which we can, Wigan are shit, shitter than we, then we're six points  clear. Come Southampton we need the biggest, meanest, horriblest central player going, with Keane in the hole.

[saunders_heroes]

Can't see any self respecting player wanting to join us in January, even on loan. We are now a laughing stock due to this pathetic ultimately doomed experiment and relegation is now a very real prospect.

Were we a laughing stock 10 days ago after winning 3-1 at Liverpool and 4-1 at Norwich?

No, but we're certainly a laughing stock right now.

[Goldie.7]

Benteke is a really good striker if he goes in the summer we are fucked and back to square one. Maybe if the inept midfield played the ball a a fraction earlier he wouldn't be offside as much.

If he went to any of the teams in the top six he'd be scoring for fun because most of them have good midfielders and fullbacks.

Yes he made a few mistakes today but they scored 3 other goals so get off his back.

[Somniloquism]

Ireland started off the 2nd half quite well and was instrumental in that good start. Unfortunately after the first goal then he went as bad as mentioned. I don't know how much was us collectively losing it again. I just wish Guzan had had the courage to run out and clear the ball for the second but two goals in the space of a few minutes was always going to see the kids heads drop again.