Manchester City v Aston Villa Match Thread

[VillaAlways]

Our names appear to be on the relegation cup

Based on losing to the current champions, after having 2 dubious penalties given against us? Get a grip, this game changes nothing.

We're in the bottom 3 because we lose to teams like Southampton and West Ham too

[Risso]

No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.

They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.

Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.

We do for sure, but I would not swap Lambert for Clarke in a month of Sundays. Lambert will get it right at Villa, if going down happens, it happens. He is a good manager IMO, and losing the last 2 doesn't change it. January might bring some midfield too.

Let's not make excuses for Lambert, he's been shit so far, and if he takes us down he should be publicly flogged on the pitch.  Next to that turd Lerner, and the ginger pillock Faulkner.

I disagree, he is trying to change things. You have the patience of a dying gnat desperate for a quick shag.

I've been waiting for three years for things to stop being utterly shit.  The majority of games this season have been no better than last, and nine points from 12 games is beyond pathetic.

[The Situation]

Bottom 3? Who have reading beaten?

2-1 up v Everton

No but who have reading beaten this season? They're playing Everton today.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Lerner has made a couple of poor managerial decisions, but we still came 9th under Ged/ Gmac. McLeish spent 20m badly, and Lambert spent 23 rebuilding a shattered squad. Losing Petrov has been as detrimental as anything, but Lerner has backed the managers with money. You speak about him like an asset stripping monster, when the reality is not even close.

What he's done is pulled the plug on spending, which is a bit of cheek considering it was his boneheaded decision to appoint Houllier and Mcleish.
£23m on a load of unproved players isn't nearly enough to compensate for the mistakes that have been made.

He's put us into this shit and he should be man enough to admit to his mistakes and to pull us out of it.

[Ducksworthy]

I miss Martin Laursen.

[Risso]

Our names appear to be on the relegation cup

Based on losing to the current champions, after having 2 dubious penalties given against us? Get a grip, this game changes nothing.

We're in the bottom 3 because we lose to teams like Southampton and West Ham too

Precisely.  9 points from 12 games means that we've been dreadful in the vast majority of games, not just this one.  9 points from 12 games and a minus 12 goal difference tells its own story.

[itbrvilla]

We are just as shit as last year and results back that up. No changes I can see. We are truly fucked

[Apyadg]

Well fuck me, West Brom are in the top 4. What a truly miserable season this is.

[ozzjim]

It is poor Risso, I agree, but I still think we will stay up. I think we will win 2-3 in a row soon enough and drag ourselves up the table a bit.

[Toronto Villa]

I miss us just having the balls to go at teams from the off. I can't recall us doing that in fuck knows how many years.

[JJ-AV]

This squad is going down. I just hope we can get a couple in during January.

[peter w]

I disagree I don't think we've been shite. They've won 86 out of 90 at home. Our tactics against the league champions was sound and we had chances in the first half. A scrappy goal conceded but we were showing that we could defend andbreak with purpose. Yes,our passing was poor at times but that was not the reason that we went from 1-0 to3-0. Ashocking penalty decision and the youngsters head went down.

We were all saying that this is going to be an up and down season and today the kids lack of experience mixed with atrocious officiating means that this is very much a down.

You're right we were still in it at 1-0 but even then I couldn't see how we were going to win it from there.  We would have done bloody well to get a draw from there.

So a win isn't the end of the world.  A bloody hiding could be dangerous for morale however.  And let's face it, we're going to be in a relegation scrap this season and fighting that out with kids will be very very difficult.

Notmany teams have won at Man City. Over 30 gameson the trot soabit of perspective is needed. But,yes,more worrying is the damage to morale.

[ozzjim]

Lerner has made a couple of poor managerial decisions, but we still came 9th under Ged/ Gmac. McLeish spent 20m badly, and Lambert spent 23 rebuilding a shattered squad. Losing Petrov has been as detrimental as anything, but Lerner has backed the managers with money. You speak about him like an asset stripping monster, when the reality is not even close.

What he's done is pulled the plug on spending, which is a bit of cheek considering it was his boneheaded decision to appoint Houllier and Mcleish.
£23m on a load of unproved players isn't nearly enough to compensate for the mistakes that have been made.

He's put us into this shit and he should be man enough to admit to his mistakes and to pull us out of it.

Well he did 2 years back with Bent didn't he. I think there will be some decent money spent this January on 3-4 players.

[oldtimernow]

No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.

They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.

Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.

We do for sure, but I would not swap Lambert for Clarke in a month of Sundays. Lambert will get it right at Villa, if going down happens, it happens. He is a good manager IMO, and losing the last 2 doesn't change it. January might bring some midfield too.

Let's not make excuses for Lambert, he's been shit so far, and if he takes us down he should be publicly flogged on the pitch.  Next to that turd Lerner, and the ginger pillock Faulkner.

I disagree, he is trying to change things. You have the patience of a dying gnat desperate for a quick shag.

I've been waiting for three years for things to stop being utterly shit.  The majority of games this season have been no better than last, and nine points from 12 games is beyond pathetic.

Ok Risso...you have been absolutely right all along...including your comments about Benteke etc...give it a rest

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Fergie has got a lot to answer for with our demise.
His glowing letter of reference for McLeish (which twatty Lerner kept in a safe!) could be the one thing that kills us off.