Quote from: PeterWithesShin on February 10, 2013, 11:21:18 PMQuote from: Dave on February 10, 2013, 11:19:44 PMQuote from: Lky on February 10, 2013, 08:21:29 PMI don't watch every minute of every premier league team but for me he's been premier league keeper of the season .....so far.I think that most fans of a team with a semi-competent goalkeeper would say exactly the same thing. I reckon Stoke, Newcastle, Spurs, QPR, Man City, Man Utd and Swansea fans would probably make the same claim.Even though most of those have made far more mistakes than Guzan has despite probably having less work to do? Yes, I absolutely think that fans of those teams would make that claim. For the reason above. Whether they (or we) are right, I'm not really sure any of us are objective enough to know.
Quote from: Dave on February 10, 2013, 11:19:44 PMQuote from: Lky on February 10, 2013, 08:21:29 PMI don't watch every minute of every premier league team but for me he's been premier league keeper of the season .....so far.I think that most fans of a team with a semi-competent goalkeeper would say exactly the same thing. I reckon Stoke, Newcastle, Spurs, QPR, Man City, Man Utd and Swansea fans would probably make the same claim.Even though most of those have made far more mistakes than Guzan has despite probably having less work to do?
Quote from: Lky on February 10, 2013, 08:21:29 PMI don't watch every minute of every premier league team but for me he's been premier league keeper of the season .....so far.I think that most fans of a team with a semi-competent goalkeeper would say exactly the same thing. I reckon Stoke, Newcastle, Spurs, QPR, Man City, Man Utd and Swansea fans would probably make the same claim.
I don't watch every minute of every premier league team but for me he's been premier league keeper of the season .....so far.
Quote from: Dave on February 10, 2013, 11:23:47 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on February 10, 2013, 11:21:18 PMQuote from: Dave on February 10, 2013, 11:19:44 PMQuote from: Lky on February 10, 2013, 08:21:29 PMI don't watch every minute of every premier league team but for me he's been premier league keeper of the season .....so far.I think that most fans of a team with a semi-competent goalkeeper would say exactly the same thing. I reckon Stoke, Newcastle, Spurs, QPR, Man City, Man Utd and Swansea fans would probably make the same claim.Even though most of those have made far more mistakes than Guzan has despite probably having less work to do? Yes, I absolutely think that fans of those teams would make that claim. For the reason above. Whether they (or we) are right, I'm not really sure any of us are objective enough to know.I don't. I can't see in a million years any City fan saying Hart is keeper of the season. Or most of the other clubs saying it about theirs.
Fans will always look at their own players with a different perspective. With the trouble we've had, watching Guzan cream all in his path to come out and collect yet another cross today is bound to evoke a 'thank fuck for the goalie'.Watch any other team do it and it's more likely a 'waste of a cross'.
Am I the only one who thinks that had we played him against Bradford we wouldn't have conceded from those set pieces?
Well it must be just me.Upto now I've yet to see him carry out anything to set him apart from a run-of-the-mill premiership keeper.If anything, I'd say his command of his area is way below what it should be and has contributed to our poor record at corners this season. TBH, watching today, I get the impression he's been spoken to about it, and was acting on instructions to that effect. To his credit of course.Is he better than Given? Arguable.Better value for money? Unquestionably. And I guess that's what's matters these days.
Quote from: avfc_1874 on February 10, 2013, 10:45:03 PMAm I the only one who thinks that had we played him against Bradford we wouldn't have conceded from those set pieces?No you're not. Bradford's lame goal at VP happened because Wee Jimmy Given stayed on his line (as always) and watched the ball fly past him. Guzan brings some relief to his defenders by commanding his area and taking crosses out of the air. Not that wee Shay is a bad goalie - cos he isn't - but he needs a very strong well drilled defence in front of him. Shay is a shot stopper - much like Friedel was. At last we've found Jimmy Rimmer's long lost son.
Quote from: mr woo on February 10, 2013, 11:39:47 PMWell it must be just me.Upto now I've yet to see him carry out anything to set him apart from a run-of-the-mill premiership keeper.If anything, I'd say his command of his area is way below what it should be and has contributed to our poor record at corners this season. TBH, watching today, I get the impression he's been spoken to about it, and was acting on instructions to that effect. To his credit of course.Is he better than Given? Arguable.Better value for money? Unquestionably. And I guess that's what's matters these days.That's a very harsh assessment in my opinion.
Those two saves from Guzan, right at the end, could be worth Ł60m quid to Aston Villa if they happen to keep us up.