No Respect

[LeeB]

It's ironic that because some people who don't feel the need to clap get castigated on a "respect" thread, whilst some people who do clap post stuff like this about an old woman.

Nope, no tongue in cheek whatsoever, her policies put my family through years of hell, I will celebrate greatly when she dies and feel absolutely no shame in doing so.
This isn't like me at all by the way, I generally don't reserve hatred for people I don't know personally, even Bono, and I try to see the best in anyone before they prove me wrong, but Thatcher? She is fucking evil and I fucking hate her.

We shouldn't be so hard on those old Nazis either.

[joe_c]

It's ironic that because some people who don't feel the need to clap get castigated on a "respect" thread, whilst some people who do clap post stuff like this about an old woman.

Nope, no tongue in cheek whatsoever, her policies put my family through years of hell, I will celebrate greatly when she dies and feel absolutely no shame in doing so.
This isn't like me at all by the way, I generally don't reserve hatred for people I don't know personally, even Bono, and I try to see the best in anyone before they prove me wrong, but Thatcher? She is fucking evil and I fucking hate her.

He didn't post about an old woman though, he posted about Margaret Thatcher.

[Fasth56]

It's ironic that because some people who don't feel the need to clap get castigated on a "respect" thread, whilst some people who do clap post stuff like this about an old woman.

Nope, no tongue in cheek whatsoever, her policies put my family through years of hell, I will celebrate greatly when she dies and feel absolutely no shame in doing so.
This isn't like me at all by the way, I generally don't reserve hatred for people I don't know personally, even Bono, and I try to see the best in anyone before they prove me wrong, but Thatcher? She is fucking evil and I fucking hate her.

He didn't post about an old woman though, he posted about Margaret Thatcher.

An answer expected from the people who will celebrate the death of Thatcher but demand compassion from others towards some one with a serious illness.

[Somniloquism]

Was harangued by a gaggle of people around me tonight for preferring to watch the game in preference to participating in the petrov clapathon?

I suggested they dig out a copy of Willy Russell's 'Terraces'.  Am not hopeful they will be able to operate the DVD though - with not having opposable thumbs.....

A bit rich having ago at other peoples digit count when you can't seem to clap and watch the players at the same time. Seems like most of the ground including the Spurs fans could do that.

why does he have to clap?

Why couldn't he do both? It is pretty much the only time apart from a goal when everyone at Villa Park is coming together and unlike goals, we know when this will happen and can expect it in every match.

[Des Little]

Everyone has a choice I agree but if you can't applaud for sixty seconds to show your support for one of our own it's a bit of a poor show.

[cdbearsfan]

It's ironic that because some people who don't feel the need to clap get castigated on a "respect" thread, whilst some people who do clap post stuff like this about an old woman.

Nope, no tongue in cheek whatsoever, her policies put my family through years of hell, I will celebrate greatly when she dies and feel absolutely no shame in doing so.
This isn't like me at all by the way, I generally don't reserve hatred for people I don't know personally, even Bono, and I try to see the best in anyone before they prove me wrong, but Thatcher? She is fucking evil and I fucking hate her.

He didn't post about an old woman though, he posted about Margaret Thatcher.

An answer expected from the people who will celebrate the death of Thatcher but demand compassion from others towards some one with a serious illness.

Person with illness = Aston Villa captain, battling midfielder and all-round nice bloke.

Thatcher = evil bitch-queen from Hell, destroyer of lives, best friend of mass-murderer.

There is a difference.

[Dave Cooper please]

It's ironic that because some people who don't feel the need to clap get castigated on a "respect" thread, whilst some people who do clap post stuff like this about an old woman.

Nope, no tongue in cheek whatsoever, her policies put my family through years of hell, I will celebrate greatly when she dies and feel absolutely no shame in doing so.
This isn't like me at all by the way, I generally don't reserve hatred for people I don't know personally, even Bono, and I try to see the best in anyone before they prove me wrong, but Thatcher? She is fucking evil and I fucking hate her.

Fucking hell! Have you been saving that up for a year and a half to have a pop at me. bravo sir, quality work.

It's not even as though I've been the most vocal, I just suggested that maybe coming onto a thread about most fans wanting to still give applause to a player from our team who is suffering from a life-threatening illness and has stated that he is still moved to tears by it, and saying that you don't want to to do clap, so there!...is a little bit silly.
 
 Meanwhile Thatcher fucked my family, that's personal, I hope she dies in a lot of pain.

 Contradictory? Crass? Pathetic? Yep I am all of those. Give a fuck? nope.

[rutski]

It's ironic that because some people who don't feel the need to clap get castigated on a "respect" thread, whilst some people who do clap post stuff like this about an old woman.

Nope, no tongue in cheek whatsoever, her policies put my family through years of hell, I will celebrate greatly when she dies and feel absolutely no shame in doing so.
This isn't like me at all by the way, I generally don't reserve hatred for people I don't know personally, even Bono, and I try to see the best in anyone before they prove me wrong, but Thatcher? She is fucking evil and I fucking hate her.

He didn't post about an old woman though, he posted about Margaret Thatcher.

An answer expected from the people who will celebrate the death of Thatcher but demand compassion from others towards some one with a serious illness.

Person with illness = Aston Villa captain, battling midfielder and all-round nice bloke.

Thatcher = evil bitch-queen from Hell, destroyer of lives, best friend of mass-murderer.

There is a difference.

[Fasth56]

Dave, it wasn't aimed as a personal attack on yourself and I apologise profusely for how it came across. Your comment was an example of the what I think are double standards on here, people wanting other supporters or even our own to clap and yet having an opinion that a fellow human being dies in a lot of pain. I too find it difficult why anybody wouldn't want to clap for Petrov, but I reserve the right for him to make his own mind up. I think compassion for fellow human beings transcends boundaries such as club or political boundaries, if not, does that not make you as bad as her?

[pauliewalnuts]

It's pretty simple really.

Sometimes, people we like suffer, and it makes us unhappy as a result, and we support them.

Other times, people we hate suffer, and we find ourselves please they're suffering. Pinochet, for example, was an old man, but I reckon the world was a better place without him.

As for Thatcher, I loathe her. Will I dance when she dies? No. Will I be pleased to see her go? Probably, yes. I think the world is better off without the likes of her.

My family did ok under her, but lots did not. If I were from a northern mining community, for example, I'd probably be counting down the hours to her departure.

Saying "you're wanting an old woman dead" as if it is any old woman is totally missing the point. It isn't any old woman, it is that old woman.

If you had a hard time under her, I am sure you'll be glad to see her gone. For people who did well under her to castigate those who did not for wanting her dead strikes me as incredibly high handed. "You might have suffered under her, but you're not allowed to hate her, because I did OK"

[Dave Cooper please]

Dave, it wasn't aimed as a personal attack on yourself and I apologise profusely for how it came across. Your comment was an example of the what I think are double standards on here, people wanting other supporters or even our own to clap and yet having an opinion that a fellow human being dies in a lot of pain. I too find it difficult why anybody wouldn't want to clap for Petrov, but I reserve the right for him to make his own mind up. I think compassion for fellow human beings transcends boundaries such as club or political boundaries, if not, does that not make you as bad as her?

No probs, it's the internet, I don't take very much personally on here!
Yes, it probably does make me as bad, but hey, as I say, it's personal. I don't generally hate anyone, least of all those who just happen to have made my football club of choice slightly less good than they might have been, and yet I still see now people who post bile and vitriol against our owner and previous owner.
 

[barrysleftfoot]

 I can never understand this "pining" for the mining communities.Who wants their children to go down the mines, certainly not the patronizing left who kept supporting the miners from afar.

 Where was this support, when the far greater economic disaster of Rover being closed down happened?How many jobs in the midlands depended on its existence . Oh that happened under a Labour govt........does'nt count then.

 Fasht is right, hypocrisy rules ok.

[Dave Cooper please]

 I can never understand this "pining" for the mining communities.Who wants their children to go down the mines, certainly not the patronizing left who kept supporting the miners from afar.

 Where was this support, when the far greater economic disaster of Rover being closed down happened?How many jobs in the midlands depended on its existence . Oh that happened under a Labour govt........does'nt count then.

 Fasht is right, hypocrisy rules ok.

What are you on about?
I didn't come from a mining community, although i nearly did get a job with the NCB. Thatchers raping of the Midlands and north went far further than just mining communities.
I marched against the Rover shutdown as well.

[Ads]

Rover made shit cars of low quality; the company got what it deserved, the workers did not.

[barrysleftfoot]

 25, 45, and 75 cars were great cars Ads, unfortunately the image that Rover had got from the 70s never left them.Both management and unions must take the blame for that.

 Selective reading DC.