No Respect

[Pete3206]

Well, I wrote an article on the cubject and submitted it to Aston Villa News & Views:

http://astonvilla-views.com/2012/11/23/show-respect-for-stan/

Couldn't you have submitted it here?

Yeah, any chance not3bad? That website is blocked at my end

[not3bad]

Well, I wrote an article on the cubject and submitted it to Aston Villa News & Views:

http://astonvilla-views.com/2012/11/23/show-respect-for-stan/

Couldn't you have submitted it here?

Well, I thought since most people here agree that we need to get rid of the chant, that getting the message out to the other forums might be a good way to spread the message, which was why I didn't post it here, initially:

Show Respect for Stan

The recent quotes by Stan Petrov expressing his appreciation for the 19th minute applause shows that this gesture by the fans is having a positive effect on a player and a person that means a lot to all of us Villa fans, and it is the best reason possible for continuing the tribute.  However a small number of individuals have been doing the gesture a disservice with the way they have been using it as a vehicle to score points over rival fans.

The “Paul Mcgrath My Lord” song is somewhat controversial at the best of times.  Singing lines like “On the Piss My Lord”, and “It’s your round” are possibly not the best way to eulogize a recovering alcoholic.  And then there are the additional verses – “Shit support my lord”, aimed at opposition fans no matter how well they might be supporting their team.  Considering the drop in attendances at Villa Park over the last few seasons, the less said about “Empty seats my Lord” the better.

Now a new verse has been added after the 19th minute tribute – “No Respect my Lord”, sung while pointing towards the opposition end (or at the home fans if it’s an away match).

At best these words are aimed at rival fans who haven’t got the faintest idea what this gesture means.  At worst it is aimed at fans who do have an inkling and have actually joined in the applause (OK, a notable exception to these examples is a small section of Manchester United’s support on their recent visit – but just because a minority of their fans want to behave like idiots, it’s no reason to stoop to their level).

The 19th minute applause is a message of support from Aston Villa fans to the captain of their club.  It should not be used as a stick with which to beat the opposition, and it does not give us any kind of “moral platform”.  So let’s keep giving this message of support to Stan, and let’s not cheapen it with stupid chants.

[MonsXI]

Well done Gooners 99.9% applauded! Speaking to a few Arsenal lads on the train one prick started giving it wanker signs and everyone in their section turned on him!

[silhillvilla]

Yep, well done Arsenal fans, thought they were top draw today apart from the "you don't know what you're doing" at Wenger ? Bizarre

[Lizz]

Well done Gooners 99.9% applauded! Speaking to a few Arsenal lads on the train one prick started giving it wanker signs and everyone in their section turned on him!

I've had a few glasses of wine in celebration of the fact we didn't lose today [though equally, if we had, I'd still have had a few glasses of wine]. From memory, some fans started a respect to the Arsenal type chant this afternoon. Admittedly it was a bit half hearted. Thought the Arsenal fans response was the most enthusiastic of away fans so far this season.

[Tucson Villain]

Couldn't hear anything but applause on the TV.

[villajk]

We sit in the front row Witton Lane Upper, next the the away fans and above them.  Almost to a man the Arsenal fans joined in with the applause.  Fair play to them.

[Tucson Villain]

Sounded a lot better than some of the games this season, the larger crowd probably helped too.

[jeowje]

The applause came across well on TV today. Any 'no respect' chants though?

Must be due a goal for or against in the nineteenth minute soon...

[Clampy]

Yep, well done Arsenal fans, thought they were top draw today apart from the "you don't know what you're doing" at Wenger ? Bizarre

I think that was because he took Giroud off and threw on a midfielder on.

[Mortimer's Bear]

Fair play to them.

[nicardinho]

Don't know about other areas of the ground but I didn't hear any 'no respect' where I was yesterday which made a nice change, especially as Arsenal's fans almost all joined in with the applause.

[garyfouroaks]

As our on the pitch form staggers, so off the pitch matters gain greater significance. My own view is that the "no respect" chant is crass self indulgence.

[Total knob-head]

People still doing this?

Very Scouse.

[Legion]

People still doing this?

Very Scouse.

So you need to ask if people are still participating in the 19th minute tribute? Or are you on about the 'No Respect' song?