No Respect

[Brend'Watkins]

Sight tangent but still on the no respect theme.

James McLean refused to wear a shirt with a poppy on it on Saturday. His choice, of course.

He comes from Derry so it's hardly surprising his attitude to the British Army is a little different from the rest of us.

And, probably a little concerned about the reaction by locals to his family still there if he did wear one.

Someone should remind them that over 60,000 Irish lost their lives fighting in WW1.

[Risso]

He comes from Derry so it's hardly surprising his attitude to the British Army is a little different from the rest of us.
Also no one should be press ganged into wearing a poppy if you choose not to.

I understand exactly why he did it. I also said he was free to choose whether or not to do it.

I'm not sure whether Remembrance Sunday is about the British Army or whether it's about spending 2 minutes each year remembering the ordinary blokes who have been killed in wars?

Isn't it just an excuse for people to try to outdo each other on Facebook with pictures of poppies and "lest we forget" type quotes?

[Chico Hamilton III]

And, probably a little concerned about the reaction by locals to his family still there if he did wear one

In effect, he was press-ganged into not wearing a poppy?

[rutski]

And, probably a little concerned about the reaction by locals to his family still there if he did wear one

In effect, he was press-ganged into not wearing a poppy?

hasnt jon snow the broadcaster said he will not wear a poppy this year as many expect him too. he supports the cause but will not be made to wear one just because it is SEEN to be doing the right thing.

[Chico Hamilton III]

hasnt jon snow the broadcaster said he will not wear a poppy this year as many expect him too. he supports the cause but will not be made to wear one just because it is SEEN to be doing the right thing.

He's said that for the last couple of years and that's fair enough for me. This wasn't the reason that McLean chose not to wear one though.

[Risso]

It doesn't really matter why McLean chose not to though does it?  It seems slightly ironic to me that the thought police now deem it completely unacceptable for any public person not to be seen wearing a poppy.  Surely individual freedoms are what the people involved in various wars were partly fighting for?

[Concrete John]

Sight tangent but still on the no respect theme.

James McLean refused to wear a shirt with a poppy on it on Saturday. His choice, of course.

He comes from Derry so it's hardly surprising his attitude to the British Army is a little different from the rest of us.

And, probably a little concerned about the reaction by locals to his family still there if he did wear one.

Someone should remind them that over 60,000 Irish lost their lives fighting in WW1.

Yet the poppy still remains synonymous with the British Army/British veterans.  For some it's very hard to disassociate it from support for the British armed forces.

[Dave Javu]

I suspect that it was a really hard decision for McLean, just like which country he chose to represent. Play for Northern Ireland and get stick  from the "loyalists/protestants", or play for the Republic and, erm...and get stiick from the "loyalists/protestants".

And it's also like Rory McIlroy's decision whether to represent ROI or GB at the next olympics. Damned if you do...

[Chico Hamilton III]

Surely individual freedoms are what the people involved in various wars were partly fighting for?

Exactly. But was it individual freedom that was behind his decision or, as a couple of people have said on here, the fear of what might happen back home if he did choose to wear one?

[saunders_heroes]

Surely individual freedoms are what the people involved in various wars were partly fighting for?

Exactly. But was it individual freedom that was behind his decision or, as a couple of people have said on here, the fear of what might happen back home if he did choose to wear one?

Or perhaps he just doesn't want to wear one.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Or perhaps he just doesn't want to wear one.

That's what I'm hoping

[rutski]

Surely individual freedoms are what the people involved in various wars were partly fighting for?

Exactly. But was it individual freedom that was behind his decision or, as a couple of people have said on here, the fear of what might happen back home if he did choose to wear one?

i nearly expressed my individual freedom yesterday afternoon when an asian parent talked on his phone for the whole minutes silence at my lads under 12's football match. netherton colts, your parent behaved disgracefully!
i think because he was asian no one had the balls to tell him to shut the fuck up incase of the argument that would follow.

[saunders_heroes]

Surely individual freedoms are what the people involved in various wars were partly fighting for?

Exactly. But was it individual freedom that was behind his decision or, as a couple of people have said on here, the fear of what might happen back home if he did choose to wear one?

i nearly expressed my individual freedom yesterday afternoon when an asian parent talked on his phone for the whole minutes silence at my lads under 12's football match. netherton colts, your parent behaved disgracefully!
i think because he was asian no one had the balls to tell him to shut the fuck up incase of the argument that would follow.

Perhaps he was just an ignorant prick? I don't see what being Asian has to do with it.

[The Laughing Policeman]

Surely individual freedoms are what the people involved in various wars were partly fighting for?

Exactly. But was it individual freedom that was behind his decision or, as a couple of people have said on here, the fear of what might happen back home if he did choose to wear one?

i nearly expressed my individual freedom yesterday afternoon when an asian parent talked on his phone for the whole minutes silence at my lads under 12's football match. netherton colts, your parent behaved disgracefully!
i think because he was asian no one had the balls to tell him to shut the fuck up incase of the argument that would follow.

Perhaps he was just an ignorant prick? I don't see what being Asian has to do with it.

Exactly, I saw a couple of white people on their phones during the silence at the service in Harborne.

[rutski]

Surely individual freedoms are what the people involved in various wars were partly fighting for?

Exactly. But was it individual freedom that was behind his decision or, as a couple of people have said on here, the fear of what might happen back home if he did choose to wear one?

i nearly expressed my individual freedom yesterday afternoon when an asian parent talked on his phone for the whole minutes silence at my lads under 12's football match. netherton colts, your parent behaved disgracefully!
i think because he was asian no one had the balls to tell him to shut the fuck up incase of the argument that would follow.

Perhaps he was just an ignorant prick? I don't see what being Asian has to do with it.

he may have done it out of his belief against british forces or he may have done it just because he was an ignorant prick. i dont know the answer, just nobody,myself included, wanted to confront him. i suppose a little out of fear of what one may be perceived as. do i make any sense?