Attendance issues

[London Villan]

It would be interesting to see how many people go to one game/two games/three games etc per season. I doubt there is another big club in the country with a fluctuating support so large.

[hawkeye]

We still get 30,000+ for every home game, despite years of tripe. Our fans are brilliant.

It's easy to focus on the empty seats, hats off to those who turn up every match.

Agreed that our fans  the 30000 or so who are there every home game are brilliant however there are 5x that in and around Birmingham who can't be bothered. I would like just 10% of those to get to VP. I accept  that there are economic and other reasons why we shouldn't expect anymore.

the fact that we dont win play awful football and face yet another season tryi g to avoid relegation, hold on to your seats

[PaulWinch again]

True but, and I'm only guessing here, I doubt there's any club in the country with as poor a record over the same period.

[London Villan]

Winning only 4 in every 10 games over the last 10 years is hardly inspiring, let alone the last two years.

[PaulWinch again]

4 in every 10 at the moment would be a start at the moment.

[dave.woodhall]

It would be interesting to see how many people go to one game/two games/three games etc per season. I doubt there is another big club in the country with a fluctuating support so large.

This touches on something I've always said - there can't be many clubs in the country with a higher ratio of passive fans to active supporters. All around the Midlands there are great swathes of Villa fans who watch us on TV and might buy a shirt but would never dream of going to a match. Then, as you say, there are a massive amount who go to the big games but don't come to the lesser ones.

[PaulWinch again]

It would be interesting to see how many people go to one game/two games/three games etc per season. I doubt there is another big club in the country with a fluctuating support so large.

This touches on something I've always said - there can't be many clubs in the country with a higher ratio of passive fans to active supporters. All around the Midlands there are great swathes of Villa fans who watch us on TV and might buy a shirt but would never dream of going to a match. Then, as you say, there are a massive amount who go to the big games but don't come to the lesser ones.

I've always found the last point a bit odd. From my perspective I'd much rather go to the 'lesser' games and see Villa outplay a team and win. Obviously that isn't happening at the moment, but in theory it's what should happen.

[Ad@m]

It would be interesting to see how many people go to one game/two games/three games etc per season. I doubt there is another big club in the country with a fluctuating support so large.

This touches on something I've always said - there can't be many clubs in the country with a higher ratio of passive fans to active supporters. All around the Midlands there are great swathes of Villa fans who watch us on TV and might buy a shirt but would never dream of going to a match. Then, as you say, there are a massive amount who go to the big games but don't come to the lesser ones.

Isn't that a criticism we level at that lot down the road?

Maybe we're not that different! ;)

[dave.woodhall]

It would be interesting to see how many people go to one game/two games/three games etc per season. I doubt there is another big club in the country with a fluctuating support so large.

This touches on something I've always said - there can't be many clubs in the country with a higher ratio of passive fans to active supporters. All around the Midlands there are great swathes of Villa fans who watch us on TV and might buy a shirt but would never dream of going to a match. Then, as you say, there are a massive amount who go to the big games but don't come to the lesser ones.

Isn't that a criticism we level at that lot down the road?

Maybe we're not that different!

They have a good few supporters who buy the shirt, wear the bollocks round their neck, hate the Villa, live and breath Small Heath but will never go to the match. We have supporters lwho turn up and a lot of fans who watch us on TV. Therein lies the difference.

[London Villan]

It's not just the big games though. We have, at best, 20000 season ticket holders, add 2000 away fans and 1000 corporate seats means that even for a game like Norwich we sell around 10000 "walk-up" tickets.

To convert these though they need to be entertained otherwise they won't come back to the next game or the one after that.

I bet Villa are unique with having such a high proportion of non-season ticket holder making up the attendance, with how we are playing that's not going to change anytime soon sadly.

[dave.woodhall]

It's not just the big games though. We have, at best, 20000 season ticket holders, add 2000 away fans and 1000 corporate seats means that even for a game like Norwich we sell around 10000 "walk-up" tickets.

To convert these though they need to be entertained otherwise they won't come back to the next game or the one after that.

I bet Villa are unique with having such a high proportion of non-season ticket holder making up the attendance, with how we are playing that's not going to change anytime soon sadly.

We've never had a great number of season ticket holders simply because you've never need one. I can't remember any game in my Villa-supporting life when tickets haven't been available to anyone who got there early enough.

[hawkeye]

particularly fans from further away, every time you go it is dissapointment and think thank god i have got that out of my system for a while

[Chris Jameson]

I've taken my son to 5 games in the last couple of years and they have all been bloody terrible, he hasn't asked to go to a match since Wigan away last season thankfully!

[London Villan]

It's not just the big games though. We have, at best, 20000 season ticket holders, add 2000 away fans and 1000 corporate seats means that even for a game like Norwich we sell around 10000 "walk-up" tickets.

To convert these though they need to be entertained otherwise they won't come back to the next game or the one after that.

I bet Villa are unique with having such a high proportion of non-season ticket holder making up the attendance, with how we are playing that's not going to change anytime soon sadly.

We've never had a great number of season ticket holders simply because you've never need one. I can't remember any game in my Villa-supporting life when tickets haven't been available to anyone who got there early enough.

One of the drawbacks (or advantages - depending which way you look at it) of having a relatively big ground.

[dave.woodhall]

One of the drawbacks (or advantages - depending which way you look at it) of having a relatively big ground.

Which has also never had any large membership schemes. To Doug's credit, when the government were trying to force clubs to have 50% members-only areas in the eighties he refused.