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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #135 on: November 11, 2012, 07:21:22 PM »
It was funny twice watching MOTD and seeing Ferdinand raving at the linesman yesterday. Both times the lino was correct as the player playing them on was behind him. Just a shame that the FA won't pull him up for swearing at officials based on video evidence.

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #136 on: November 11, 2012, 07:23:22 PM »

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #137 on: November 11, 2012, 07:26:06 PM »
This?
now i am no professional lip reader, was he shouting fast shit or fascist?

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #138 on: November 11, 2012, 07:28:52 PM »
Thats one of them, Smalling or Evra was playing Tekkers on whilst Ferdy was a yard off the pace with his hand in the air. Then he turns around and rants at the Lino instead of his own player. He was also moaning for offside for the 2nd goal but the camera didn't capture his face for that one.

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #139 on: November 11, 2012, 07:32:24 PM »
Back to Dowd as well, how he could say Handball for that last minute penalty, then claim he moved his hand to the ball. He should be dropped down for that decision alone. Also, you could see his shoulders drop when he realised he could not legitimately get out of giving a penalty against Arsenal.

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #140 on: November 11, 2012, 07:33:31 PM »
As a referee this weekend I can confirm I hate footballers, 90 minutes of non stop abuse gets really boring, 11, a manager and 2 spectators players shouting at me when their own linesman told them that I got it right. One of the spectators shouted from behind the goal so that I could hear him on the half way line that I was a twat. Whilst he was sat there with his child who could of been no older than 3 years old.
Yeah I reffed a good game of football today, spoiled by testosterone-hyperactive 17-18 yr olds who think that every decision is aimed against them personally. Gobshites.
TBF, the parents today were okay.
Alex and Mister E, keep up the good work lads..Alex, are you in line for promotion, once you move up through the system, and you are involved in semi-pro football, its worth it.
I had the pleasure to run the line to Andre Marriner in a Southern League game years ago, and after the home team lost 1-0, the home manager kindly informed him he wouldnt go any higher...Not a good judge of referees was the home manager :-D
I am indeed Dave, two assessmants so far, 1st was from top assessor co-ordinator and when I spoke to him afterwards he said he had no development points for me! My third and potentially final assessmant is on the 24th November and I get on really well with both teams and it should be an easy one but take nothing for granted in football it could all just blow up! Just got to hope my club marks are sufficient now, I've done my 5 county lines
Well, you're way further up the path than I am and TBH I suspect my age / fitness will put paid to much progression (I've only just qualified at L7 - or is it L6?).

Level 12 until you done your first 6 games where you change to level 7. I'm level 7 still but hopefully at the end of the season I'll be 6, as mentioned earlier I've got a feeling a lot of it will come down to club marks. Being 20 and in good shape I got plenty of time to make a good standard of refereeing. Football League is the ambition

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #141 on: November 11, 2012, 07:37:55 PM »
Good luck.

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #142 on: November 11, 2012, 07:39:52 PM »

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #143 on: November 11, 2012, 08:19:01 PM »
I used to ref kids' leagues in Wigan, it was a horrible, thankless task.

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #144 on: November 12, 2012, 08:51:47 AM »
It was funny twice watching MOTD and seeing Ferdinand raving at the linesman yesterday. Both times the lino was correct as the player playing them on was behind him. Just a shame that the FA won't pull him up for swearing at officials based on video evidence.
If you did that, you would be charging players up and down the country all the time. Lke it or not, players swear on a football pitch, but swearing alone these days is not a red card offence. You will hear the so called experts say its foul language, but, its only if a player is guilty of using offensive/abusive/insulting langauge or gestures, then it becomes a red card offence.
Also bear in mind, with the noise from a 40k+ crowd, unless a player is right in your face, as a ref you wont hear it...I have run the line with crowds of 2/3k in the past, and when players have wanted to offer me 'advice', due to the background noise, i couldnt hear what they were saying...So i just smiled at them :-)

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #145 on: November 12, 2012, 08:00:24 PM »
It was funny twice watching MOTD and seeing Ferdinand raving at the linesman yesterday. Both times the lino was correct as the player playing them on was behind him. Just a shame that the FA won't pull him up for swearing at officials based on video evidence.
If you did that, you would be charging players up and down the country all the time. Lke it or not, players swear on a football pitch, but swearing alone these days is not a red card offence. You will hear the so called experts say its foul language, but, its only if a player is guilty of using offensive/abusive/insulting langauge or gestures, then it becomes a red card offence.
Also bear in mind, with the noise from a 40k+ crowd, unless a player is right in your face, as a ref you wont hear it...I have run the line with crowds of 2/3k in the past, and when players have wanted to offer me 'advice', due to the background noise, i couldnt hear what they were saying...So i just smiled at them :-)

If someone swears on the pitch like 'oh ffs reff' then I don't mind, its just frustration, but when someone directly swears at me as in 'reff your a twat' then I have no hesitation to show them the red card. I wouldn't expect him to take it off me (its highly unlikely he would anyway) so why should I take it off him? I think you lose your match control if you let players act up like Ferdinand did yesterday. Appreciate with the crowd its highly unlikely they heard anything, but I'd love the FA to actually start doing something about it...

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #146 on: November 12, 2012, 08:04:26 PM »
It was funny twice watching MOTD and seeing Ferdinand raving at the linesman yesterday. Both times the lino was correct as the player playing them on was behind him. Just a shame that the FA won't pull him up for swearing at officials based on video evidence.
If you did that, you would be charging players up and down the country all the time. Lke it or not, players swear on a football pitch, but swearing alone these days is not a red card offence. You will hear the so called experts say its foul language, but, its only if a player is guilty of using offensive/abusive/insulting langauge or gestures, then it becomes a red card offence.
Also bear in mind, with the noise from a 40k+ crowd, unless a player is right in your face, as a ref you wont hear it...I have run the line with crowds of 2/3k in the past, and when players have wanted to offer me 'advice', due to the background noise, i couldnt hear what they were saying...So i just smiled at them :-)

If someone swears on the pitch like 'oh ffs reff' then I don't mind, its just frustration, but when someone directly swears at me as in 'reff your a twat' then I have no hesitation to show them the red card. I wouldn't expect him to take it off me (its highly unlikely he would anyway) so why should I take it off him? I think you lose your match control if you let players act up like Ferdinand did yesterday. Appreciate with the crowd its highly unlikely they heard anything, but I'd love the FA to actually start doing something about it...

That is totally my point. The refs have the rules to enforce the Respect campaign with players but let them get away with it, especially the big teams players. How many times in the last few years has Rooney, Ferdinand, Terry and other been in the face of refs effing and blinding because the decision did not go their way?

Edit: The only two prem players I can think who has been directly red carded for abusing an official are Maschareno when the FA started to push the respect campaign after some massively disrespectful scenes,  and then before that Barry about 8 years ago. Yet on the TV, we see it easily enough.
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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #147 on: November 12, 2012, 08:15:09 PM »
Back to Dowd as well, how he could say Handball for that last minute penalty, then claim he moved his hand to the ball. He should be dropped down for that decision alone. Also, you could see his shoulders drop when he realised he could not legitimately get out of giving a penalty against Arsenal.

I'm pretty sure he did a similar thing to Micah Richards at Anfield a couple (?) of seasons ago - in the League Cup semi. Basically it was another completely accidental handball, compounded by the fact that the ball rebounded off his leg or something first. But Dowd, probably anticipating the Kop's appreciation Jeff Winter style, blew for the penalty and then repeatedly made this stupid chubby armed gesture about ten times for the cameras (just like he did on Saturday).

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #148 on: November 12, 2012, 10:40:24 PM »
It was funny twice watching MOTD and seeing Ferdinand raving at the linesman yesterday. Both times the lino was correct as the player playing them on was behind him. Just a shame that the FA won't pull him up for swearing at officials based on video evidence.
If you did that, you would be charging players up and down the country all the time. Lke it or not, players swear on a football pitch, but swearing alone these days is not a red card offence. You will hear the so called experts say its foul language, but, its only if a player is guilty of using offensive/abusive/insulting langauge or gestures, then it becomes a red card offence.
Also bear in mind, with the noise from a 40k+ crowd, unless a player is right in your face, as a ref you wont hear it...I have run the line with crowds of 2/3k in the past, and when players have wanted to offer me 'advice', due to the background noise, i couldnt hear what they were saying...So i just smiled at them :-)

I'd like to point out that people have the impression rugby players are perfect gentlemen on the pitch compared to thuggish footballers. I went to Twickenham on Saturday and my missus had that ref link thing which allows you to listen to the officials like on the TV. The words the broadcasters edit out would make a docker blush.

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Re: What is it with Phil Dowd?
« Reply #149 on: December 23, 2012, 09:37:09 PM »
cant blame the fat twat for the result but he gave them 2 very iffy penalties!

 


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