Aston Villa v Norwich City Post-Match Thread

[myf]

a thoroughly depressing day. first game for me in months and thought the atmosphere was dire much like the performance. the club has a really bad vibe hanging over it. can't see where the points are coming from

[pauliewalnuts]

We were abysmal last season and things aren't going to change in a hurry.

I think Lambert knows what he is doing and he will prove to be a good appointment. Two things worry me, though.

One is that recent games have shown none of the improvements of earlier matches. We've looked just as anti football as we did last year.

The other is that our signings look like they're from the cheap and cheerful market (in terms of wages), and although that keeps the chairman happy, it is a dangerous strategy to take.

[gervilla]

My only game in this horrible run of results was the Swansea game.
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[pauliewalnuts]

If people think we'll be alright I wouldn't call their optimism mindless. I know they're not exactly world-beaters, but the midfield that performed well against Newcastle and Swansea is fit and available, and Benteke, Guzan and Vlaar seem to be improving.

If he'd just pick the right team we might get some better results.

Although it is tempting to get angry and shout a lot, I reckon you're pretty much on the money with that comment.

[brian green]

Pretty much the same as last year with a manager who is a bit more palatable just about sums it up.   That match was on a par with anything TSM served up and contained as much hoofball.

[bertlambshank]

You are the one having a go at people for saying we are in the shit.

[Oscar Arce]

I was as overjoyed as everyone we appointed Lambert but I'm now beginning to worry a bit.
We were abysmal today, totally outclassed by a team who are going to struggle this season, and I am questioning the manager's judgement in signing Benett, who, every time I have seen him for Villa and Boro, has just looked a defensive liability, culminating in today's nightmare performance.
He simply cannot defend, his positioning is dreadful, his decision making is poor and I said at halftime he should have been taken off, at least with 11 men we would have had a chance of hanging on, but if Lambert doesn't take him out of the team it is going to cost us many more points.
If he needs to learn how to play full back please do it in the reserves, or Under 21s whatver they call them now.
Warock, in my opinion, is a better left full back and we've shipped him out, I'm not saying the kid has no ability which he clearly has but I don't think he is a lef back whose first job surely must be to defend his area of the pitch that he clearly cannot do.

[PeterWithesShin]

You are the one having a go at people for saying we are in the shit.

No i'm not. It really is very simple. Again, I don't care if people think we are great, average or shit. What I do care is how they speak and/or address people who have a different opinion. Using the terms "mindless" "sick of them" etc is not tolerated.

[MarkM]

It was worrying that he couldn't see that taking off Albrighton and moving Gabby into midfield was the better option.

Also putting Bent on for Benteke? Bent is no way near a holding strong front player, I don't think he touched the ball for 10 mins when he came on. Bent was retreating back into midfield and leaving no outlet when we occasionally looked for one.

If I (and many round me) could see it surely our manager could as well???

[pauliewalnuts]

I have to say, we have a few players who look like they're not going to be good enough at this level.

Delph, for example, who seems congenitally incapable of getting forward, and seems to specialise in turning around, shielding the ball and promptly running straight into an opponent and losing it.

That, plus the fact he always seems to be trying to get himself sent off.

Then you have to look at the likes of Albrighton and wonder what he's supplying in return for his millionaire lifestyle. Not to mention Gabby.

[PeterWithesShin]

I have to say, we have a few players who look like they're not going to be good enough at this level.

Delph, for example, who seems congenitally incapable of getting forward, and seems to specialise in turning around, shielding the ball and promptly running straight into an opponent and losing it.

That, plus the fact he always seems to be trying to get himself sent off.

Then you have to look at the likes of Albrighton and wonder what he's supplying in return for his millionaire lifestyle. Not to mention Gabby.

Delph has a near 90% pass completion rate so far this season. I was surprised as well.

Edited to add: Albrighton is a massive worry for me right now. What happened to the bloke who burst into the first team?

[Flamingo Lane]

Whoever said "we're up to our neck's in it" is totally wrong.

Please don't use an apostrophe in a plural.

 

[bertlambshank]

You are the one having a go at people for saying we are in the shit.

No i'm not. It really is very simple. Again, I don't care if people think we are great, average or shit. What I do care is how they speak and/or address people who have a different opinion. Using the terms "mindless" "sick of them" etc is not tolerated.

So saying some people just believe it is ok then?

[PeterWithesShin]

You are the one having a go at people for saying we are in the shit.

No i'm not. It really is very simple. Again, I don't care if people think we are great, average or shit. What I do care is how they speak and/or address people who have a different opinion. Using the terms "mindless" "sick of them" etc is not tolerated.

So saying some people just believe it is ok then?

Well yes, no insults and amazingly, some people just do believe we will be fine. They don't necessarily have to justify why or even know why they believe it. Same as some people believe we'll struggle to stay up. 

[Phil from the upper holte]

I didn't get the booing when we took Agbonlahor off, that's exactly what I'd have done we can't afford to play 3 at the back nor 3 in midfield, you've only got to see the chances Norwich created and 3 at the back would have been suicide. What does concern me is that if it wasn't for Guzan we'd have lost! Defence parted like the red sea on more than one occasion. Midfield create nothing and Albrighton and Delph were passengers. The Bent substitution was baffling. Where has the Newcastle style performances gone?