Lambert Out?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I wonder why Lerner gets off lightly compared to Doug? Could it possibly be that most people think he's nowhere near as bad?

Probably.  But then lots of people still believe all the hype and marketing nonsense.

I would have thought that as a bean counter, you'd be the first to stand up and demonstrate how Lerner has consistantly invested or are we to ignore everything because he appointed TSM and hasn't given his every last cent to the transfer kitty?

Yes, he's made mistakes but he still does what we most want him to do, invest in the club.

Spending money the way Lerner has isn't investment, it's stupidity.  The way he's run the club from a business perspective makes me wince.

The £15m he paid to former managers is indeed his own fault but with such poor attendances, cheap tickets, not to mention the fall in PL prize money, I'd say he's more than held his own regarding transfer kitty.

[Risso]

I wonder why Lerner gets off lightly compared to Doug? Could it possibly be that most people think he's nowhere near as bad?

Probably.  But then lots of people still believe all the hype and marketing nonsense.

I would have thought that as a bean counter, you'd be the first to stand up and demonstrate how Lerner has consistantly invested or are we to ignore everything because he appointed TSM and hasn't given his every last cent to the transfer kitty?

Yes, he's made mistakes but he still does what we most want him to do, invest in the club.

Spending money the way Lerner has isn't investment, it's stupidity.  The way he's run the club from a business perspective makes me wince.

The £15m he paid to former managers is indeed his own fault but with such poor attendances, cheap tickets, not to mention the fall in PL prize money, I'd say he's more than held his own regarding transfer kitty.

The reason we have poor attendances and falling prize money is that he appointed bad managers and sold all our best players.

[ozzjim]

Our best players asked to leave and engineered moves, he simply got the most for them he could.

He trusted his managers in the market, something that may have been naive, but then had he not backed them he would get even more stick.

The marketing shit is nothing to do with why he does not get more stick. He has put his hand in and bankrolled the club over the last few years as much as he could.

And if you want to dress it up as honesty on the thread the other night carry on, but bringing a match thread back to an owner who appointed the fans favourite for the job, then backed him with significant funds last summer as not being interested is not honesty, it is bollocks. He has made mistakes, most people do in life, but he has tried to rectify them too. As for the other comments on the thread, such as ALbrighton being a ****** for mis hitting a cross, or the continuous moaning like old women on there, it was a pretty poisonous one. That is my honest opinion. Something you have already had a shot at Risso. But then optimism is not allowed in your world is it.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

And if you want to dress it up as honesty on the thread the other night carry on, but bringing a match thread back to an owner who appointed the fans favourite for the job, then backed him with significant funds last summer as not being interested is not honesty, it is bollocks. He has made mistakes, most people do in life, but he has tried to rectify them too. As for the other comments on the thread, such as ALbrighton being a c*** for mis hitting a cross, or the continuous moaning like old women on there, it was a pretty poisonous one. That is my honest opinion. Something you have already had a shot at Risso. But then optimism is not allowed in your world is it.

He may have appointed a fans favourite in Lambert, but the way he shoved us backwards with the appointments of Houllier and McCatpiss, after floundering when O'Neill walked, beggars belief.

For a so called interested Chairman, his appointment of the hideous and inept Scottish Manager comes across as some sort of footballing Hari-Kari.
If you only judged him on that, it would be bad enough.

And i'll ask again, where were the 'Lambert out' comments?

or the continuous moaning like old women on there, it was a pretty poisonous one

The match thread is best avoided if you don't like moaning when we're playng shit.
You hear nothing but moaning at Villa Park if we're playing poorly, it's been like that for eons, it's nothing new.

[ozzjim]

Fletch, this thread is called Lambert Out..... Risso said he would prefer to have Big Sam than Lambert the other night and exclaimed he is doing a shit job, and the tone of the match thread was turning against Lambert over the Bent decision at 0-0. It was like we were 3-0 down. There was just Fergal and a few others fighting the tide with the slightest bit of optimism.

[oldtimernow]

I wonder why Lerner gets off lightly compared to Doug? Could it possibly be that most people think he's nowhere near as bad?

Probably.  But then lots of people still believe all the hype and marketing nonsense.

I would have thought that as a bean counter, you'd be the first to stand up and demonstrate how Lerner has consistantly invested or are we to ignore everything because he appointed TSM and hasn't given his every last cent to the transfer kitty?

Yes, he's made mistakes but he still does what we most want him to do, invest in the club.

Spending money the way Lerner has isn't investment, it's stupidity.  The way he's run the club from a business perspective makes me wince.

The £15m he paid to former managers is indeed his own fault but with such poor attendances, cheap tickets, not to mention the fall in PL prize money, I'd say he's more than held his own regarding transfer kitty.

The reason we have poor attendances and falling prize money is that he appointed bad managers and sold all our best players.

http://hereisthecity.com/2012/11/30/the-37-million-aston-villa-got-for-young-and-downing-looks-bette/

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Fletch, this thread is called Lambert Out..... Risso said he would prefer to have Big Sam than Lambert the other night and exclaimed he is doing a shit job

I don't think he's happy with him, but i'm not sure he wants him sacked.
I'm sure he'll tell us.

[Risso]

Fletch, this thread is called Lambert Out..... Risso said he would prefer to have Big Sam than Lambert the other night and exclaimed he is doing a shit job, and the tone of the match thread was turning against Lambert over the Bent decision at 0-0. It was like we were 3-0 down. There was just Fergal and a few others fighting the tide with the slightest bit of optimism.

Oh good lord.  Have a read of the first thread in this topic, you'll see why it's called "Lambert Out?"  Nobody has actually said that at all though.  And so what if I'd have preferred another manager, I'd rather have Pep Guardiola as well.  If you're going to be such a delicate little flower when people are having a bit of a moan because they don't like the team being in and out of the bottom three, you're not going to enjoy this place very much for the forseeable future.

[oldtimernow]

Is Risso happy with anything at the moment.....is he getting enough sleep methinks?

[PaulTheVillan]

IIRC most of this site wanted Old Gunnar Solksjear

[N'ZMAV]

I wanted Martinez. But, am happy we got Lambert and fully back him. I can see the bigger picture.

[Percy McCarthy]

Fuck me, I'm glad I missed that match-thread. It's three days later now and I'm still a bit scared to read it.

[ozzjim]

Fletch, this thread is called Lambert Out..... Risso said he would prefer to have Big Sam than Lambert the other night and exclaimed he is doing a shit job, and the tone of the match thread was turning against Lambert over the Bent decision at 0-0. It was like we were 3-0 down. There was just Fergal and a few others fighting the tide with the slightest bit of optimism.

Oh good lord.  Have a read of the first thread in this topic, you'll see why it's called "Lambert Out?"  Nobody has actually said that at all though.  And so what if I'd have preferred another manager, I'd rather have Pep Guardiola as well.  If you're going to be such a delicate little flower when people are having a bit of a moan because they don't like the team being in and out of the bottom three, you're not going to enjoy this place very much for the forseeable future.

Don't start belittling with your little flower bollocks. You take moaning to a new, slightly angry level at the moment, and lace almost every football related thread with it. You are at present the equivalent of those shadow creatures that drag bad ghosts off to their doom in the aptly named film, Ghost. If I was a delicate little flower I would watch in silence.

Oh and you wanted Lambert, just turned on him in 12 games a few nights ago.

[ozzjim]

Fuck me, I'm glad I missed that match-thread. It's three days later now and I'm still a bit scared to read it.

I think it annoyed me much more at the time than reading it back would now.

[DB]

Modern day football - no patience. We were a sack of sh*t last season and Lambert has the task of sorting it out with little in the way of cash. Give him time I say and he'll turn it around. We will stay up this season.